From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-la0-x22a.google.com (mail-la0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22a]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D79CB21F557; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id hz20so3467lab.1 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:42:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=qOPM/TQwG6gG5oky0Ug3uX9DrnK5E/XdHuTGhGWu6L8=; b=gRZ4/mjA4QsS7k3xJPTdDy//4+BD+4cb/PsAHMTs85RPMYTfayfSWn0SbDz6xjfDJb O/3cuYOhymSL4vvzLU6/LRsrrEtUKU2YYoph34ojMF+Rkc++jtKsuplxQ0Ji7PVjZI03 33f7AJK/ij9rmfibTZmO5I3rO8xiMotmQahVXElTmvOXDMMJ0lMYrUfW4AYW9I8UJkUO 7PGmWI0hqsCI4IvU1V3/AmC3oS23TgB2RxJvsukCEzG67rywCp8sDBJ1lq1HSVuECDeb NLbjxRrY+kBKa5MZlxV6lRrtiW6U+N2oAP4uNtO+qoy2rCNvKP4MOY5Ibz4/qAiVKFuG gp9g== X-Received: by 10.152.5.135 with SMTP id s7mr4930788las.96.1410482543894; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bass.home.chromatix.fi (87-93-250-217.bb.dnainternet.fi. [87.93.250.217]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pw9sm795544lbb.2.2014.09.11.17.42.22 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Jonathan Morton X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <1410482143.8059509@apps.rackspace.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 03:42:20 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <45F70DEB-F0FE-45EA-8D27-EEF7C523476B@gmail.com> References: <1410482143.8059509@apps.rackspace.com> To: dpreed@reed.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Cc: Wes Felter , =?utf-8?Q?Joel_Wir=C4=81mu_Pauling?= , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Fixing bufferbloat: How about an open letter to the web benchmarkers? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 00:42:55 -0000 On 12 Sep, 2014, at 3:35 am, dpreed@reed.com wrote: > Among friends of mine, we can publicize this widely. But those = friends probably would like to see how the measurement would work. Could we make use of the existing test servers (running netperf) for = that demonstration? How hard is the protocol to fake in Javascript? Or would a netperf-wrapper demonstration suffice? We've already got = that, but we'd need to extract the single-figures-of-merit from the = data. I wonder if the speedof.me API can already be tricked into doing the = right thing? - Jonathan Morton