From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-x231.google.com (mail-qc0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 502CC21F112 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 08:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id i8so1516133qcq.8 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 08:29:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; bh=6PKWachgLff+w48ne2QXPeJYhWP93YB33vY68bdzRtI=; b=tHBXI+BmR6d1vnrLobrDml9d021bjWx63E1XVmiUAvMeKwWosouGxSP2M1Pg9o2Vot N8ENpcqDvRnGHc1zQYbJZKmMsDRDWZ4V612c1usFSRV5LxUjMBjsLH90EE+M9F3veVer 1azNrAqgzuIo2Vs40bKxWzYEvSG+bx6TRXTgA9SbaoqEjn5JwGFmfqGf32CNsWNaBdDK 04gY+vf98Igpt0RP83A+f+LPbOZtisW9vfCjBbQNHdRkEE4OYoH4/E4dW9EPDWfyzJcD IW3BDtnDNuUVK9OyoR4TIeLcECBRQp+6CKbmrB44D55FjzZN/IdseKTgorJS0KPRBwil tniQ== X-Received: by 10.224.32.133 with SMTP id c5mr20098726qad.54.1389457764370; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 08:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from richs-mbp-2018.home.lan ([64.223.225.159]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f19sm16944455qaq.12.2014.01.11.08.29.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Jan 2014 08:29:24 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4B0976EC-5224-4E81-B5DF-96A85424FB6E@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:29:23 -0500 To: cerowrt-devel Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] VDSL X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 16:29:35 -0000 The VDSL option is burning up way too many of my brain cells. Given that = VDSL may well use ATM, while VDSL2 is unlikely to use ATM, I think that = it isn=92t useful to include it as a top-level choice . In the new pages, I propose removing the VDSL choice, leaving: - =93ATM (any kind of DSL link)=94 and=20 - =93None=94 and letting people tune the settings after reading the =93Everything you = wanted to know=85=94 page if they want to optimize.=20 = http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Setting_up_AQM_for_CeroWr= t_310 -and- = http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Everything_you_wanted_to_= know_about_Link_Layer_Adaptation Rich=