From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CC7123B29D for ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:29:00 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1642091339; bh=YvMmz3+afgOX9DrXhmbdAj81mkRvfJ7wFQc0kI7IA+4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=aZtzLLQGgEf9ymdFnEnv4ZKBQTdlJCqr46buiFVM2x8d8TqzCG6Iz/7NEklogkITA rrExE/DiczNmWq9OuGeJ9JZi8RDBN5LWUmWEleEIYCd+DWUMC4iE/5vL1HV55i1LuG MQnatCWQ8l5oST9r55Uk0IMMAsRpXls5U+D9X2Xw= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from smtpclient.apple ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MOiHf-1mytc40EH9-00Q9wQ; Thu, 13 Jan 2022 17:28:59 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 17:28:58 +0100 Cc: cerowrt-devel Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4F3A4139-6703-467C-832D-3E27294707CE@gmx.de> References: <6D533A43-C4E9-4D48-BC9B-26630F1E17F5@gmx.de> To: =?utf-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:owJa1Q5an4yDODYzDE9hbLyiRprzQ65URzqjTbYgeVEmERwYwFV PudA5jlm+gUAWf5xDd+ZiufHOjnoisMcej1Ljy5jzUtF50QtVHb1wQK+XHIY1j9wFa5WPxe OaG/z1geULn3HVn6ZcEs5wh5izZqj0SqiI0rTscdDxgVtmoqKJlYAkycsxQbCyfJY4VSJ8j HZuJeAUZEj5FQ48jKHmfQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:38+hPO80+Es=:CEj8drb0+kcBkYUwePyZqR BCev4Hw9BdMyk38aIHXA5ZVrv5ahWPfrR6d5Ral3/BL/5ioUQjMLTgAMtkSfF+mpPmaTGcSUb 4L1N4g2dXW+nc85dLUZAZrr5OSr7uQD3TBR/N2BWwApZdx3wEtV8yLSVinKzbkzYW9q9Pt8ao DITZtf5deYGkcLNuIj0bIvOoK1Ir9wt+eEILvoAj2tGQyFsds3++3MiSXoFZCE0/+dv33VyII 2DLfys4TWh7+SlkYnmgtC6pnOwGDgNyL4t61AJQ858wPhIisEV8Logqev6a/NsY2TODwUG7hA oREqo1FEjxkNxrdNh7n4rECPQAOfPDID2fm8eknE0C8EGHwNzWHyolCR/Y06iuekZMK3IwCPs AMnpT6Sh9wcGYsk7HHwIOy4HjLefkiHrjj81frKg0tmwsh8DDJk38rv6/dtEndPHa7ELAaxgh RkXjT/RoWSDWVlDuLKcM/oHTPCnKXGzSK/VdkZ2HftTqE0FyP291+hjNBbQIMHpwdudB2oen3 XyADE0F7HtCOarn8LckIHROurkWLiz+9mZ7H9g713bZnyDWhGOjZMGxSBBqp0pOKqE6T4xLXr alEI/VZkChU+ueKOe7naIirZmvVwzXZQV5UqemRmQ2TrS3teR5e2XPhkacMhwtP+B/LniQxLN WnvB5IosKnYEvDKJvWVIiDRUSgLcFt0jVrVjoCfXDJqGpraG3ZtA++W5cuJ8wPf6QK0w8oFCp HLvc3pu134/3KH3AjagEMa7kS5cv6pP8+nx6MGK78KUd4AohTTtDDj1A63TU7WuqdsudPEBWa xACKWwAVG4OgtmGwKoO+Ny/PpglmeRkw/yWuqf3hXN2JsZfRFc4De/QKAF8yuIGxmRbmXwxXC wFdLpfuAOOL+Cu2QqwQ47abpVUfslmaorxSZi0SNK1x2I0hVy/K/myslNSbDnqETr8pE9RrPA ekZntpU/T8YeDVmLCLx+HDmclJntWECzZWREofMnUtikbOmYTmQ+4E9OAu5+uM8cQ7Z13ngFI cmV9qufnehOAty4pxsIj5z5x/kp+MQ8XXN1Cc9jKh+LZFeuyLjVw1QvSX+DxmtzM9wPAJYhgC 6w5grXH2QaR+Z0= Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] a smart SFP X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 16:29:01 -0000 Hi Dave, > On Jan 13, 2022, at 16:59, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 7:57 AM Sebastian Moeller = wrote: >>=20 >> Hi Dave, >>=20 >>=20 >> this thread = https://www.computerbase.de/forum/threads/eigenes-modem-an-ftth-anschluss-= via-sfp-gpon-modul.2061989/ (in German) has some instructions how to get = root on one type of SFP ONU... (I was monitoring that thread for general = interest, turns out the intel falcon plattform seems somehow based on an = ancient OpenWrt) >>=20 >> Regards >> Sebastian >=20 > It's really remarkable how many places are running an ancient openwrt. > Starlink's use was not an abomination, but a persistent reality. Given > how much > chaos calmer I've found, I sometimes wish we'd somehow started the > cerowrt project 2 years earlier. Yes and no. > Then we'd be done by now. Hopefully, but then I would not have noticed the whole thing and = would probably not have participated... ;) Regards Sebastian=20 >=20 >>=20 >>> On Jan 13, 2022, at 15:38, Dave Taht wrote: >>>=20 >>> And a gpon onu >>>=20 >>> https://www.fs.com/products/133619.html >>>=20 >>> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 6:23 AM Sebastian Moeller = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> That is similar to what happens in some GPON-ONT SFPs, some run a = full small Linux distribution like OpenWrt inside.... though for = ethernet that is unexpected. >>>> This is also similar to SFP VDSL "modems" which likely run their = own embedded OS as well inside the SFP package (at a time there was even = a PCI VDSL2 "modem" that was actually running its own embedded system on = the PCI board, IIRC, it pretended to the main computer to be an ethernet = NIC). >>>>=20 >>>> Regards >>>> Sebastian >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> On Jan 13, 2022, at 15:18, Dave Taht wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> running linux, of course. >>>>>=20 >>>>> https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/smart-sfp-linux-inside >>>>>=20 >>>>> -- >>>>> I tried to build a better future, a few times: >>>>> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org >>>>>=20 >>>>> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Cerowrt-devel mailing list >>>>> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net >>>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -- >>> I tried to build a better future, a few times: >>> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org >>>=20 >>> Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >>=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org >=20 > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC