From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vw0-f43.google.com (mail-vw0-f43.google.com [209.85.212.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 90E5020024C for ; Fri, 2 Mar 2012 08:14:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by vbbfq11 with SMTP id fq11so2825746vbb.16 for ; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 08:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gettysjim@gmail.com designates 10.52.18.212 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.52.18.212; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gettysjim@gmail.com designates 10.52.18.212 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gettysjim@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=gettysjim@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.52.18.212]) by 10.52.18.212 with SMTP id y20mr17249540vdd.50.1330704842278 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 08:14:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6RRAlBLO6PLyZLlc0q6dFunBSESJ60v+N9xlrnDHmFA=; b=Mw+Gapst7GGbhn6gpl7yi4k/DCqRYsgy0zETtZYOny9hWsWdALGreFJ8yeW2KWoO9T C5NGOt6QtY7L5lRWXf+ZGDlBc9iKd+/WNyCiO7+d1XQKsszXL1n9T8/SU000ZikOnPaA Wy+qr4SvS7ns8+InwSq3uRko2k9Jf6RePnbSYSnDQ7bPvJPDs3dK29rvW19XjchdnuoB APmLNBDo+OSscane79dx3yeXGnAI0+VXi0ttlPE6ZlR8bvOzMPmXsrS4TVEmX0syITjh avmyUr0L6PPekg9golexjcaYDGG3ocL6aTaZBsmO05QKq09CNZInRxmqow/XG+amFPQU 7Ibg== Received: by 10.52.18.212 with SMTP id y20mr14686485vdd.50.1330704842111; Fri, 02 Mar 2012 08:14:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.27] (c-24-63-191-17.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [24.63.191.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a19sm9323983vdh.12.2012.03.02.08.14.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 02 Mar 2012 08:14:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: Jim Gettys Message-ID: <4F50F1C7.4080401@freedesktop.org> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 11:13:59 -0500 From: Jim Gettys Organization: Bell Labs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg KH References: <20120302154302.GD27141@kroah.com> In-Reply-To: <20120302154302.GD27141@kroah.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, Alistair Woodman Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] closer ties to ltsi? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2012 16:14:03 -0000 On 03/02/2012 10:43 AM, Greg KH wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 02:33:25AM -0800, Dave Taht wrote: >> Dear Greg: >> >> What ltsi is up to: >> >> http://ltsi.linuxfoundation.org/what-is-ltsi >> >> is orthogonal to what we are up to, in that they are trying to produce >> a usable, stable tree that can be used in a lot of CE devices, and we >> are trying to push the bleeding edge in finding, fixing, and testing >> things that would be good to have deployed in a lot of CE devices at >> least on the bufferbloat, security, and network - especially ipv6 - >> fronts. >> >> How to faster get stuff from "R&D" to deployment is always on my mind. >> I'm very happy to be successfully tracking the 3.3 process 'live' at >> the moment with cerowrt. I imagine the next 'stable' >> kernel chosen will be 3.3 or 3.4 based. > If you do all of your work upstream in the main kernel.org kernel, then > LTSI can backport your changes as needed to their kernels. I recommend > doing that. > > That's what Dave has been doing, to the extent possible; it's a bit of a PITA, since the MIPS/OpenWrt folks tend not to quite keep up with x86. And BQL (in 3.3) is essential to bufferbloat work. - Jim