From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from renta.net (renta.net [206.221.219.122]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C7FC21F0B3 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 02:07:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.202] ([::ffff:101.167.17.51]) (AUTH: PLAIN markc@renta.net, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3, 256bits, CAMELLIA256-SHA) by renta.net with ESMTPSA; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 02:07:03 -0800 id 0000000000060253.00000000510F8847.000023C9 Message-ID: <510F8846.1000703@renta.net> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:07:02 +1000 From: Mark Constable User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130105 Thunderbird/17.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <2104238.aCilpchpBQ@markc> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] stanford talk/deluged in hardware/yurtlab X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 10:07:05 -0000 On 04/02/13 16:29, Dave Taht wrote: > Well, that sort of begs the question of why go through all the > pain of porting openwrt to an x86 product, No porting involved, the UML target is the same as the build host so I just build on a x86_64 host and drop the UML kernel options. > when you can just install ubuntu/fedora/any of a zillion other > products on x86. Sure but none of them come with exactly the same packages and patch sets as CeroWrt. For you it may be simpler to emulate the packages and their configs on a standard distro but for me it would be far easier to start with a "genuine" CeroWrt installation, along with UCI and a standard sysv init system. > The second is increasingly without point. Any ~$200 device + $70 for a 60GB SSD that can run a dozen or more lxc containers of CeroWrt for various network testing is of interest. Add 2 x 8Mb ram for $110 and potentially run up to 200 to 300 lxc containers and that is a situation where x86_64 is essential. I'm sprooking this hardware because I already have one and hoping I might hear from anyone else on this list who also has the same hardware and would like to see a downloadable 64 bit "firmware". If so then please email me off-list.