From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8040921F1EB for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 01:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.46]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D3020D76; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 04:15:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 22 Nov 2013 04:15:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=imap.cc; h= message-id:date:from:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=mesmtp; bh=GqyuHFYnyjkWB0vp4DywfwplrqM=; b=kpqRidEBp40b1syFXI+4CLAdV0V4 w8vdRxZgrIXk9GvepDJXaHxzIDb6VlTAG7/dRi0aY7W5zhbtGb8IEoSWCtvjyHPb hfQALlGvfT0dxHDH53LE/cSgIFtzleZkzsmIe+Uh2bwN6aJnx3iN0cjvZR+8H7N+ KqEkmpcc1QikoL0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=message-id:date:from:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=GqyuHFYnyjkWB0vp4Dywfw plrqM=; b=dt9UUtM/hwe5BX2MUA3pUPbunkyRr8qI8p7rbOJqH+V5uwQhNPrmyR f04sJo8yd3HFoCApEMCZIWJKtb8D4rhYZqASgQhNgHx9Mod6qrKd6dC+rmF25cXZ HlqhPTpJepFFksW2Ao8kXCQWrenuthsbpUjhI6ZzPNWHVSIAcfwRk= X-Sasl-enc: /fjh+hL1dYqmZlMMDqwEXJ0dR4Nd3UWfhvhD90rec357 1385111738 Received: from [172.30.42.8] (unknown [89.240.233.198]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 305CEC00E87; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 04:15:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <528F20BA.4060708@imap.cc> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 09:15:38 +0000 From: Fred Stratton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sebastian Moeller , cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <528C8A13.1010101@imap.cc> <8B8A306F-3E06-445D-9336-3E6F33533BFA@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <8B8A306F-3E06-445D-9336-3E6F33533BFA@gmx.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] PIE and ADSL2+ X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 09:15:41 -0000 Thank you. Are you still using ADSL2+, Sebastian, or have you moved to fibre? On 22/11/13 09:10, Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Hi Fred, > > > On Nov 20, 2013, at 11:08 , Fred Stratton wrote: > >> I have been using PIE instead of fq_codel for approximately 10 days. It works well. > Intrigued by your report I went ahead and tested simple.qos with fq_codel and pie (cerowrt 3.10.18-1) with rrul against demo.tohojo.dk: > /netperf-wrapper -l 300 -H demo.tohojo.dk rrul -p all_scaled -t my_silly_name > > Pie (with the default target of 20ms(?) shows around 120 ms ping delay (fq_codel shows 45ms) also the average downlink with fq_codel is roughly 10% higher than with pie. So at least in that test fq_codel seems better than pie. That said, compared to ping latencies up to 300ms (my primary router somehow restricts ;agencies to roughly 300ms) with no AQM, just rate shaping with HTB, pie still keeps the internet more useable. > >> Should it? > I think its designers wanted it to be a competent disc, so I guess it should :) > >> Has PIE been optimized for ADSL? > Best Regards > Sebastian >> _______________________________________________ >> Cerowrt-devel mailing list >> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel