From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from g2t2352.austin.hp.com (g2t2352.austin.hp.com [15.217.128.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.hp.com", Issuer "VeriSign Class 3 Secure Server CA - G3" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5AF8C21F09E; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:01:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from g2t2360.austin.hp.com (g2t2360.austin.hp.com [16.197.8.247]) by g2t2352.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DD437A; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [16.103.148.51] (tardy.usa.hp.com [16.103.148.51]) by g2t2360.austin.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA154F; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:01:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <53A9D92B.7010603@hp.com> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:01:47 -0700 From: Rick Jones User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Taht , Rich Brown References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cerowrt-devel , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] =?utf-8?q?=5BBloat=5D__Dave_T=C3=A4ht_quoted_in_t?= =?utf-8?q?he_ACLU_blog?= X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:01:49 -0000 On 06/24/2014 12:45 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > In an age where you have, say, gbit fiber to your business, it makes quite > a lot of sense from a security and maintenence perspective > to be hosting your own data and servers on your own darn premise, not > elsewhere. Perhaps, but where does having gigabit fibre to a business imply the business has the space, power, and cooling to host all the servers it might need/wish to have? > I am glad gfiber exists to put a scare into certain monopolists, but > even then I'd be tons happier if municipalities treated basic wired > connectivity as we do roads. One of the great "Secrets" of silicon > valley is it got wired for fiber early, through the vision and > foresight of people like Brian Reid and everybody got easy access. That must be a really well-kept secret as I am aware of no fibre running to my house in Sunnyvale :) rick jones speaking for myself alone