From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qc0-x234.google.com (mail-qc0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c01::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7554621F1D4 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 20:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id w7so10003835qcr.39 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 20:33:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; bh=4bEj3uG1TFPxVwYBg4SZVhNTAsjdlClFGAwZVd8HnKw=; b=uJ+Ec90Lxw9Lm9GxyVkrGz2ZaDqmfxzrjBrw4xrBEHB5dwqSFf8AqCaxHN6VS76NWV QVaqiPkeN4/o1zYzXy6ShW2F7EduIjZ/1VMSBIXwOn6viA+kQPTJ9ya4XQTKmaQsLZi5 ZaIYfuB9g5vRYtT45g9tDNe6WzjWN7iIhaIAS6lOhLiR4/aRd/jUzYS5MvJHVk3PIwv0 /F/ebApNUs5rYMqE/vtV7Ep4iTp770/YNpWf6A6zop0YWQYskD5HlHz0tt9e1j+Mp8GK fv8OYFVhQFvt9HKHlUm6dOLZh0QvlLRjR2YVRXBYlpU9CF7A2cYVsRgM1PuoxejB9QxP xWkg== X-Received: by 10.224.2.6 with SMTP id 6mr7031225qah.12.1388291601611; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 20:33:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from richs-mbp-1866.home.lan (pool-70-105-231-215.port.east.myfairpoint.net. [70.105.231.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nq5sm62644904qeb.8.2013.12.28.20.33.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 28 Dec 2013 20:33:21 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Brown Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <54B228A1-9362-4CC5-BDC6-C8968A5DDE94@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 23:33:24 -0500 To: cerowrt-devel Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.1 \(1827\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1827) Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM Question #3: How shall we recommend people set their upload/download speeds? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 04:33:22 -0000 QUESTION #3: How shall we recommend people set their upload/download = speeds?=20 Although we have already spent a lot of time on the list batting around = ways to think about this, it seems to me that there are only two choices = for recommendations, especially given that most people looking at = CeroWrt are in a =93TL;DR=94 mind set: 1) If you don=92t have an accurate sense of your actual link speed = (e.g., you haven=92t done a link speed measurement), you should take = your provider=92s published specs, knock them down by 15%, and enter = those values in the SQM Basic Settings tab. [Or should they take an = additional 15% off that already reduced value?] 2) If you have done measurements of your link speed, you should enter = values that are 95% of each direction=92s measured speed.=20 Is this the right recommendation?=20 NB: In the Details=85 section, we can recommend ways to measure current = link speeds, encourage people to make the measurement during quiet = times, link to the =93Quick test for Bufferbloat=94 page, etc. for those = who want to dig further.