From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from atl4mhob02.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhob02.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.40]) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26DCA21F304 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:29:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.208]) by atl4mhob02.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t23HTfwu013378 for ; Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:29:41 -0500 Received: (qmail 4357 invoked by uid 0); 3 Mar 2015 17:29:41 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 24.166.126.82 X-Authenticated-UID: wes@mti-systems.com Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.3?) (wes@mti-systems.com@24.166.126.82) by 0 with ESMTPA; 3 Mar 2015 17:29:41 -0000 Message-ID: <54F5EF7B.4000006@mti-systems.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 12:29:31 -0500 From: Wesley Eddy Organization: MTI Systems User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Fred Baker (fred)" , Dave Taht References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "aqm@ietf.org" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] [aqm] ping loss "considered harmful" X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 17:30:13 -0000 On 3/3/2015 12:20 PM, Fred Baker (fred) wrote: > >> On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:57 PM, Dave Taht > > wrote: >> >> How can we fix this user perception, short of re-prioritizing ping in >> sqm-scripts? > > IMHO, ping should go at the same priority as general traffic - the > default class, DSCP=0. When I send one, I am asking whether a random > packet can get to a given address and get a response back. I can imagine > having a command-line parameter to set the DSCP to another value of my > choosing. > I generally agree, however ... The DSCP of the response isn't controllable though, and likely the DSCP that is ultimately received will not be the one that was sent, so it can't be as simple as echoing back the same one. Ping doesn't tell you latency components in the forward or return path (some other protocols can do this though). So, setting the DSCP on the outgoing request may not be all that useful, depending on what the measurement is really for. -- Wes Eddy MTI Systems