From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from emea01-db3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-db3on0078.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.55.234.78]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74BA421F50D for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 10:02:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.30.42.102] (151.227.238.44) by HE1PR07MB0939.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (25.162.27.145) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.130.23; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 17:02:03 +0000 Message-ID: <55295373.507@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:01:39 +0100 From: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms070106070100050501000706" X-Originating-IP: [151.227.238.44] X-ClientProxiedBy: BY2PR04CA0079.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.247.47) To HE1PR07MB0939.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (25.162.27.145) Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=kevin@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk; X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:HE1PR07MB0939; X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: BMV:1; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(6049001)(6009001)(74482002)(46102003)(66066001)(86362001)(36756003)(65956001)(65806001)(92566002)(122386002)(117636001)(77156002)(54356999)(64126003)(62966003)(87976001)(107886001)(568964001)(512874002)(83506001)(5890100001)(84326002)(77096005)(65816999)(229853001)(450100001)(2351001)(42186005)(40100003)(110136001)(4001350100001)(50986999); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:HE1PR07MB0939; H:[172.30.42.102]; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:nov; PTR:InfoNoRecords; LANG:en; X-Microsoft-Antispam-PRVS: X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(5002010)(5005006); SRVR:HE1PR07MB0939; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:HE1PR07MB0939; X-Forefront-PRVS: 05437568AA Received-SPF: None (protection.outlook.com: darbyshire-bryant.me.uk does not designate permitted sender hosts) X-OriginatorOrg: darbyshire-bryant.me.uk X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2015 17:02:03.3576 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR07MB0939 Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] Routed LANs vs WOL & Windows troubles X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 17:02:37 -0000 --------------ms070106070100050501000706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chaps, Newcomer to Openwrt & the Cerowrt concepts so bear with me. I've built an Openwrt environment based on Archer C7 hardware and 'Cerowrt' principles of 'Routed LANs' for GigE LAN, Wireless LAN1 & Wireless LAN2. I get the design idea of limiting broadcast/multicast traffic on the wireless LANs however for a vaguely technical home I'm hitting problems that make things 'just not work', to the extent of thinking about going back to bridged LAN/WLAN. So the 3 problems in ascending order of annoyance/confusion. 1) I've a central Windows based Home Server (WHS) with a Wake On Lan facility - it dozes until a client appears on LAN/WLAN, sends a WOL Magic packet. Unfortunately the WOL Magic packets don't cross subnets and the vast majority of clients are of the wireless variety. Some sort of WOL forwarding/proxying on the router would seem the way to go. Has anyone been here/solved it already? 2) I have a 'WSD' printer/multifunction device on the LAN, an Epson something or other. It can communicate across subnets (ping) without issue but it always appears 'offline' as a WSD printer. I can use the scanner functionality no problem at all :-) 3) Windows and its firewall. Windows likes its firewall on. It only likes to talk to things on the local attached subnet. Windows by default won't reply to pings across subnets and it certainly doesn't like doing file sharing. It would be wonderful if there was a nice easy way (via DHCP?) of telling it 'trust 172.30.42/24' (or even my IPV6 equivalent /56) Has anyone else fallen in to this? Solved it? 4) (A bonus Monty Python question) I've a second wireless access point at the other end of the garden, attached by a suitable length of Cat 6.=20 Devices at mid travel point ideally roam from House wifi to Shed wifi...but now they change IP address as well. To be honest I'm not sure how this actually works in a bridged environment either since the MAC now migrates from local wireless bridge interface to local wired interface and potentially back again as I wander around the garden...how does it really know where to send frames to this magically roaming device= ? It appears a lot of 'it just works' functionality is designed for bridged LAN/WLAN scenarios and hates routed but maybe I've got the wrong end of a stick. 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