From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from emea01-db3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-db3on0089.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.55.234.89]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "MSIT Machine Auth CA 2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D24DC21F3E0 for ; Thu, 14 May 2015 06:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Authentication-Results: lists.bufferbloat.net; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none; Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:1f1d:18a::9b1c:6a15] (2001:470:1f1d:18a::9b1c:6a15) by HE1PR07MB0937.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (25.162.27.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.160.19; Thu, 14 May 2015 13:38:59 +0000 Message-ID: <5554A56C.5010403@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 14:38:52 +0100 From: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: References: <24D7CF8A-6FAE-47D8-A9EE-1C1B0734D1E6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <24D7CF8A-6FAE-47D8-A9EE-1C1B0734D1E6@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030009040603070500080909" X-Originating-IP: [2001:470:1f1d:18a::9b1c:6a15] X-ClientProxiedBy: AM2PR09CA0009.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com (25.161.22.147) To HE1PR07MB0937.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (25.162.27.143) X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:HE1PR07MB0937; X-Microsoft-Antispam-PRVS: X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:; X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(601004)(5005006)(3002001); SRVR:HE1PR07MB0937; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:HE1PR07MB0937; X-Forefront-PRVS: 0576145E86 X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(6009001)(51704005)(479174004)(24454002)(40100003)(122386002)(189998001)(80316001)(107886002)(110136002)(19580395003)(42186005)(5001960100002)(1720100001)(59896002)(15975445007)(4001350100001)(5890100001)(568964001)(87976001)(2950100001)(512944002)(36756003)(84326002)(65816999)(76176999)(87266999)(54356999)(46102003)(50986999)(74482002)(83506001)(92566002)(33656002)(62966003)(77156002)(450100001)(86362001)(65956001)(2351001)(3826002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:HE1PR07MB0937; H:[IPv6:2001:470:1f1d:18a::9b1c:6a15]; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; X-OriginatorOrg: darbyshire-bryant.me.uk X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2015 13:38:59.2690 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: HE1PR07MB0937 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] fq_codel is *three* years old today X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 13:39:52 -0000 --------------ms030009040603070500080909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 14/05/15 13:11, Rich Brown wrote: > Folks, > > Today is the third anniversary of the announcement of a testable fq_cod= el (see https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cerowrt-devel/2014-May/00= 2984.html et. seq.) Happy Birthday! :-) > - Speaking of which, the new DSLReports Speed Test has recently stirred= things up. Not only do we have an attractive tool that we can recommend = to friends, but people are getting a little hot under the collar when the= y see the crummy performance of the router that they just paid dearly for= =2E See, for example, http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r30051856-Connectiv= ity-Buffer-Bloat > > Not just dslreports. Thinkbroadband (quite popular in the UK) have been = working on a new HTML5 based 'speed/latency' test (they've been=20 collecting data for a few months)=20 http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest.html It looks like it's still in progress and only gives a 'bufferbloat=20 rating' rathing than DSLReport's pretty graphs, BUT it is adding to the=20 tide of bufferbloat awareness which can only be a good thing. My awareness and interest has certainly been piqued over the past few=20 months. Dave & Jim's explanations of bufferbloat have been avid=20 reading/viewing here, as has the increasing alarm at the poor^H^H^H^H=20 non-existent support of standard CPE routing devices (I now won't touch=20 anything older than linux 3.0 based) 'Friends don't let friends run=20 factory firmware' (especially parents) has been the motivation for=20 switching to OpenWrt as well as bufferbloat improvements (though I'm=20 also concerned by coding monocultures) Most things have stretched my=20 circa 1990 unix sys admin skills (used to sysadmin before another path=20 took hold) but picking up little tidbits of info from this list and=20 others, I hope to be able to contribute in the near future. Sincerest thanks to (in no particular order) Jim, Dave, Toke, Alan & all = the crew here for working on the bufferbloat problem. 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