From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com (out4-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 20B0621F781 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 2015 02:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53BC4202E2; Sun, 6 Sep 2015 05:57:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 06 Sep 2015 05:57:39 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=imap.cc; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=REgH6Vav6dh9Npvhz778qTfXCLY=; b=qS0KeY 4YNhb4aqpmYV3JShxamtnn3Xm+tE+zBVaBRq7DikjvnkdWZe7r9NOEZj7ttcLTe8 1zYuU/rbahwWKUIMPLdyIqe8FqoQSeOVk74+RsYfM6EHuCN2jX86cN6xq25e3H/H h3tfRU3Er9/cmyY5uYoUoEfwzRDFV/PHDFNBc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=REgH6Vav6dh9Npv hz778qTfXCLY=; b=ew3+U9zHDx/EJ+zTS7fPjnJsFuYS+pEzqJPJ0I14VfOjcAT d/hmn6XwlNsqSh91KzzeVIDjM51Uk2y6GbsBGypUGGy4Evk6XJj7ua4iXce32NDI 26w7XWOWwJRWNTZKx8RyKJLgwAtvBm/ICvmT6f2PcgEq4BhxZvUk/gT6Zc4M= X-Sasl-enc: uyKq9LkuhVJpvKkelpXRv0DSFGeW3UD4bBCvg4iLxW8+ 1441533458 Received: from [192.168.42.225] (host-89-240-238-40.as13285.net [89.240.238.40]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D85B1C0028A for ; Sun, 6 Sep 2015 05:57:38 -0400 (EDT) To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net References: From: Fred Stratton Message-ID: <55EC0E11.2030807@imap.cc> Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 10:57:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Save WiFi from the FCC - DEADLINE is in 3 days *September* 8 X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2015 09:58:03 -0000 Apropos the EU Directive. It might be useful if others read this freely available document. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:32014L0053 Having read the German article stating that DD-WRT was at risk, I can find no reference to that in the Directive. In the preamble '(19) Verification by radio equipment of the compliance of its combination with software should not be abused in order to prevent its use with software provided by independent parties. The availability to public authorities, manufacturers and users of information on the compliance of intended combinations of radio equipment and software should contribute to facilitate competition. ' Others need to read this. On 05/09/15 23:05, Dave Taht wrote: > while the current FCC course sucks, I personally have been unable to > summon the moxy to fight anymore. Decided to migrate to the eu > instead, only to find the same ruling going into play here. Is there > no place left on the planet safe to innovate in? > > and: LTE-U is an even greater threat, and I'm low on ideas on how to counter it. > > http://www.wsj.com/articles/cell-carriers-battle-for-wi-fi-airwaves-1440543853 > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Rich Brown wrote: >> Folks, >> >> Dave may have buried the lede in his previous note... The date for comments >> to the FCC is not a month away, but only three days away - 8 Sep 2015. >> >> To see the talking points for preparing your comments, go to: >> https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Save_WiFi >> >> To submit a comment, click the green "SUBMIT A FORMAL COMMENT" button on >> https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2015/08/06/2015-18402/equipment-authorization-and-electronic-labeling-for-wireless-devices >> >> Please post a link to your comments when you're done. >> >> Rich >> >> On Sep 5, 2015, at 6:42 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> In other news: >> >> I am glad to see the more political save-the-wifi coming online rapidly: >> >> https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Save_WiFi >> >> I HAD NO IDEA that the follow-on rules for 2016 would basically ban >> modifiable firmware entirely, nor that the DFS problem was due to only 41 >> old radars that need to be replaced anyway. >> >> Comment deadline for the fcc is sept 8th, not oct 8, which means we should >> strap ourselves into the writing console, like, today. >> >> > >