From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qg0-x22e.google.com (mail-qg0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22e]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2B2DC21F371; Thu, 8 May 2014 05:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id q108so2699675qgd.33 for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 05:50:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=FwcPC8vR8fqHZn5dNCw2QGoMn5g0n+xCwaUVq7axHik=; b=cWRYKJRSEDYTrtlxuJm8WAqxqPZko8X5EqKC7a57toOqU4n+MilzwCECYSJU9lsxLz xcJnh99Ha3eygQwYOKlfMc5R+Igx0hhsjx9XGYApy7MRElGfqFXvKLFKURMjcNNqmTxX lwOsucahNWkPS/KcXe46SVsQ575Sh0ttn25+292h6DcuB9q5u2SNKq0gcHbkkdw56ape +x2KcQJlPDXEF2qrwCZbzd/AhWflw20Rkfkeg4dsa0k7wEkF3nZ1uR92H7Gsnkh6Znku 2NvoT4iP8VA7frM89SRudtT5TvMHGJvGUn1xZSL3mBwVidMHQeVQ2mzhDvSL6Xu1MxaQ Ehqg== X-Received: by 10.224.36.129 with SMTP id t1mr4481308qad.88.1399553411029; Thu, 08 May 2014 05:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from richs-mbp-4431.home.lan ([72.95.88.139]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id q8sm1340454qas.5.2014.05.08.05.50.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 08 May 2014 05:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) From: Rich Brown In-Reply-To: <20140508121713.4e4130eb@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 08:50:08 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5CD31177-2F28-4EF5-A55D-AD369A294CB6@gmail.com> References: <20140508121713.4e4130eb@redhat.com> To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Cc: cerowrt-devel , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] Cisco article about Bufferbloat X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 12:50:12 -0000 Thanks, Jesper, On May 8, 2014, at 6:17 AM, Jesper Dangaard Brouer = wrote: > On Wed, 7 May 2014 09:20:51 -0400 > Rich Brown wrote: >=20 >> Cisco posted a note re: Bufferbloat and their PIE algorithm the other = day.=20 >>=20 >> I added a comment that gives a little more background about the = history >> of the problem, and acknowledges the work from the Bufferbloat = project >> team, kernel developers, and other industry players to produce a good >> result. >>=20 >> Read both at: = http://newsroom.cisco.com/feature-content?type=3Dwebcontent&articleId=3D14= 14442 >=20 > Thank you Rich, for adding that comment. I appreciate Cisco taking > bufferbloat seriously, but the article were a little too Cisco biased > towards who "invented" this stuff. I can't fault Cisco for the article - they publish what suits their = purposes. At least they mentioned Bufferbloat, unlike other vendors... There's a bit of a discussion starting up on that page. Best, Rich=