From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from omr1.cc.vt.edu (omr1.cc.ipv6.vt.edu [IPv6:2607:b400:92:8300:0:c6:2117:b0e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48DDF3BA8E for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mr6.cc.vt.edu (mr6.cc.vt.edu [IPv6:2607:b400:92:8500:0:af:2d00:4488]) by omr1.cc.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w6PJEa38006041 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:14:36 -0400 Received: from mail-qt0-f200.google.com (mail-qt0-f200.google.com [209.85.216.200]) by mr6.cc.vt.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id w6PJEVWP009201 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:14:36 -0400 Received: by mail-qt0-f200.google.com with SMTP id k21-v6so6666709qtj.23 for ; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:14:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:date:message-id; bh=iux+KAT4nXCkhxaqLDVphytOBeyMSVagp5kRlK9L0kY=; b=p/bVg1kKBR/snjMSxz6uFjkYNffcBUdUY6A/DrreuC6WQktTPflhXYs9TelpGzwTIX wbsHesO7nZwV+2SyYb2cBi9btjbg8ZnkOH2cV9rTd3G85JHOAFqDVszX+xOyj2DWnJ4f 44DVwVDfvoqiAJbMxLHTuuszaLU2V405A1zipRfOwLGwImxWj9NhrlAfuyVK+VraM8n2 UZhanbrgCRR7Nw7eFjYblPWwZx0w8BJVGrf8y5m0CbKRdSbEwgWTO986v0TOaid2PgNx EWssc3jp6SBv9XAtUFFINiAZz17YLLMnQVvBkNjGTZdkaQy2GTa+O+7XzLPFOSB6Fk27 2YMw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlEuDuxI8p6xlDL6e53Voq8rdLlah6uzZK/QXW7FB0qygEnQJYsP uMEcS4ZCAzzhGSJNIeA3ZJVai78B9IdZVFjRSeRgjLqRS/EVR/6O9E2bkqNeMJz3sHpjVr9DNeh OCl8K02KTfxc2nvhyW5iDVPQbOnP05+sP7X5P4j0jqucC X-Received: by 2002:ae9:c002:: with SMTP id u2-v6mr20288092qkk.391.1532546071667; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:14:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpccGrusYze6fkcEXzKHO82DPpAXfKJIh5lTB7Zbmq+ot4lW80j6jNF6T2Pd4Tf1B3JyuQcoMQ== X-Received: by 2002:ae9:c002:: with SMTP id u2-v6mr20288079qkk.391.1532546071481; Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (turing-police.cc.ipv6.vt.edu. [2001:468:c80:2103:f21f:afff:fe0c:8ada]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h55-v6sm14866791qta.86.2018.07.25.12.14.29 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 25 Jul 2018 12:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Valdis Kletnieks From: valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu X-Google-Original-From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2017 with nmh-1.7+dev To: Dave Taht Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1532546068_2847P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 15:14:29 -0400 Message-ID: <63972.1532546069@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] So how far behind is the embedded router world, still? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 19:14:37 -0000 --==_Exmh_1532546068_2847P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 25 Jul 2018 11:50:31 -0700, Dave Taht said: > I recently took apart verizon FIOS's current firmware for one of their > more popular routers. It's still running 2.6.21, which shipped in > june, 2007. Overgeneralizing from this one data point, I am wondering > if the trendline for new routing products tracking current software > has got worse or better? I have to admit I bought a Linksys WRT1200AC and it didn't stay on factory firmware long enough for me to check, it got Lede installed right over the top before it got swapped in for the old router.... Friends don't let friends run factory firmware... :) --==_Exmh_1532546068_2847P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2017 iQEVAwUBW1jMFI0DS38y7CIcAQIpUQgAgHeOoAvQpcfZa22XUIrIBJdM6WPtcyH0 ppT458t7mbr+mH9NXXVhzNttUP/Dp+gKQoYKi1jr35w+CPlS5YyYcrd4tmEpLhE1 /HdnlYSu4n+TlmBDNl3KwZE8l8HM0EN9dkqzV8k4P0J/VBgvDJB5293Dkka/8bzF O5C80qwW2RE8sZ3vrGWTaXcsGg29x8xp45o02wcSe5UlHo/+TwcTkPKrHbkIo0e2 CthO90wnzc7TTlFLuA7I++2BFqsrh4alTvS0bxyOGgF9bKueuvpdqCAQ/259XoaO YuXoSHWsZdKOSHKstkLWFDVK34EStcBHd3n90jyimF0ibmXYAgLKQw== =4Oks -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1532546068_2847P--