From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DDCE21F448 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2014 11:02:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hms-beagle.home.lan ([91.50.104.23]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M8leW-1XNzA22a2m-00CBI0; Fri, 03 Oct 2014 20:02:30 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 20:02:28 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <69F8425E-5376-43D1-9EDF-8142A863E1BF@gmx.de> References: To: =?windows-1252?Q?Dave_T=E4ht?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:5FIBNbzEuino2fCJFRNdW5plM8jMaWoXyBxN6xwPnvQiqrTALnH xJToNScI9Hk5QPJYivRgr0QhPEvD92IUH1gbqUwg7pVl5tbkFfjhSe77Czjn9RD1RTw7re/ 2JfSmtsr8OeT6mqKw68G4IvLSRXLDF2GZCYlLCuQKVVNDpFVdfoj8h096CVR7be48HqbOXv 9RNn8U4l/25mE6rrbw7yw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; Cc: Alpha Sparc , openwrt-devel , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] better ingress shaping somehow X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2014 18:03:03 -0000 Hi Dave, On Oct 3, 2014, at 01:07 , Dave Taht wrote: [cut a lot...] > But: the real killer, on ingress shaping, is the call to skb_clone in > sch_ingress->act_mirred path, I think. So I thought that we basically have around 50Mbps = =93shaping-capability=94 on the wndrs which hew can distribute between = egress and ingress, but if your analysis is correct wouldn=92t that mean = that shaping egress is cheaper? (Not that this has much relevance in the = real world due uplink << downlink asymmetry the ISPs push onto us = endusers) >=20 > If it were possible to have sch_cake replace sch_ingress, that would > be a huge win, but following the call path for why that must be cloned > has thus far resisted my archeological expertise. An network ninja > is needed here.... [=85] ;)=20 Best Regards Sebastian=