From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com (out3-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C006A200619 for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 12:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2164E2146C; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:38:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=imap.cc; h=from :content-type:subject:date:references:to:message-id :mime-version; s=mesmtp; bh=ZURPTkpiO3341xD39NlXQ6vUgyY=; b=V4El BFB6zzG+NmDvvoTIKFG+7XFIso7Vi6ep4WfPM5DQJcYQRSSPFGqd/wsB3PJ1O0ga y0V0Gv432NrT4L99K8mK/3aVQ1v9SsrfCIoir5YGUJ9Q9xMZck+zrB21HQs1RO1J FZiGi0MR1ls0LtkSzQZW/5sCCxZPwyHAB29Homg= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:content-type:subject:date:references :to:message-id:mime-version; s=smtpout; bh=ZURPTkpiO3341xD39NlXQ 6vUgyY=; b=BbKpV/GTi7UlVPUsHHeCzvTXAYz1xAUqJMIvzcsytt9SuSLpDKFck dZ+eONMJVp0A3q5e9tUhtHZM0wga45HPQjFrADU6tEuRKJTgygNGLcaFp4YyhFXN W2x9rDJl3fJdtnEGZehZ+O6+nu7kBku/X2yNWrAYCTIrXJRG3P9o9A= X-Sasl-enc: cEOjpXMr31D9J803sP+7AbMGWn6svQOPTCRr2HWJgJiE 1376422734 Received: from [172.30.42.15] (unknown [188.221.232.223]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9143168019F for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:38:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Fred Stratton Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EE6BC044-DFB6-4B6C-9134-BBB24EAF9EDF" Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 20:38:53 +0100 References: <48DAC6B8-9C68-484D-9A5B-B11C6E4E36C8@gmx.de> To: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Message-Id: <6E7F315A-A1B3-4999-B374-92519A19D273@imap.cc> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.5 \(1508\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] AQM and ADSL X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 19:38:57 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_EE6BC044-DFB6-4B6C-9134-BBB24EAF9EDF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 (sent to incorrect email address, again) Begin forwarded message: > From: Sebastian Moeller > Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] AQM and ADSL > Date: 13 August 2013 19:53:45 BST > To: Fred Stratton > Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" = >=20 > H Fred > On Aug 13, 2013, at 17:28 , Fred Stratton = wrote: >=20 >> I have been experimenting with the two sets of modified sets of = scripts and AQM panels. Thank you for constructing them. >=20 > Thanks for testing... >=20 >>=20 >> To mention the string ''for ATM choose' is repeated erroneously in = the extended panel. >=20 > Fixed=85 I will try to test whether it actually works before = sending the next version... >=20 >>=20 >> The scripts work. >>=20 >> The link layer giving best results is ethernet. >=20 > What and how did you measure? Using "use HTB's private mechanism = for linklayer and overhead" or "Use tc's stab mechanism for linklayer = and overhead"? A little browsing of the kernel source makes me believe = that the HTB version is fully busted and will not do anything at all (so = I would have imagined adel atm and ethernet to behave the same). I am = thinking about how to test whether a link layer adjustment works or not. >=20 >=20 >> Pinging severs whilst running Netalyzr has no effect. >=20 > Not being a native english speaker cloud you be more explicit, = please. Was the ping RTT affected by the concurrent netalyzr run = (especially up- and download testing)? Did you get netsurf-wrapper to = work on ubuntu? >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> The tone buckets of the phone signal are translated into ATM packets = by the DSP in the 2 Wire 2700. I have no idea what this closed source = BSD implementation does to the packets before they are sent to CeroWRT. >=20 >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> I am using 3.10.2-1, as I cannot get the latest version to install = with sys upgrade. >=20 > So 3.10.6-1 fails with sysupgrade? >=20 >=20 > best > Sebastian >=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> Cerowrt-devel mailing list >> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel >=20 --Apple-Mail=_EE6BC044-DFB6-4B6C-9134-BBB24EAF9EDF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252
From: Sebastian Moeller = <moeller0@gmx.de>
Subject: = Re: [Cerowrt-devel] AQM and = ADSL
Date: 13 August 2013 19:53:45 BST
To: Fred Stratton = <fredstratton@imap.cc>

H Fred
On Aug 13, = 2013, at 17:28 , Fred Stratton <fredstratton@imap.cc> = wrote:

I have been experimenting with = the two sets of modified sets of scripts and AQM panels. Thank you for = constructing them.

Thanks for = testing...


To mention the string = ''for ATM choose' is repeated erroneously in the extended = panel.

Fixed=85 I will try to test = whether it actually works before sending the next = version...


The scripts = work.

The link layer giving best results is = ethernet.

What and how did you measure? = Using "use HTB's private mechanism for linklayer and overhead" or "Use = tc's stab mechanism for linklayer and overhead"? A little browsing of = the kernel source makes me believe that the HTB version is fully busted = and will not do anything at all (so I would have imagined adel atm and = ethernet to behave the same). I am thinking about how to test whether a = link layer adjustment works or not.


Pinging severs whilst running Netalyzr has no = effect.

Not being a native english = speaker cloud you be more explicit, please. Was the ping RTT affected by = the concurrent netalyzr run (especially up- and download testing)? Did = you get netsurf-wrapper to work on ubuntu?



The tone buckets of the phone signal are translated = into ATM packets by the DSP in the 2 Wire 2700. I have no idea what this = closed source BSD implementation does to the packets before they are = sent to CeroWRT.




I am using 3.10.2-1, as I cannot get the latest = version to install with sys upgrade.

So = 3.10.6-1 fails with sysupgrade?


best
= Sebastian


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