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* [Cerowrt-devel] ntia broadband RFC
@ 2022-01-18 21:19 Dave Taht
  2022-01-20 15:11 ` [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2022-01-18 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bloat, cerowrt-devel

This is the first time in years that I felt that maybe something we
said could get through to an agency of the US government. The deadline
for filing is feb 4th,
and it would be nice if some of the billions on the table got spent on
better routers, software, and networks.

https://ntia.gov/files/ntia/publications/fr-iija-broadband-rfc.pdf

In their RFC there are 36 questions, some of which are pretty good.

I've been participating a bit in this forum:
https://discuss.broadband.money/c/broadband-grant-events/scott-woods-ama
among other things I dragged out last week was the "upgrade in place"
idea. There's 3 weeks or so to come up with
something worth filing, but as usual these days I'm always looking for
collaborators?



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* Re: [Bloat] ntia broadband RFC
  2022-01-18 21:19 [Cerowrt-devel] ntia broadband RFC Dave Taht
@ 2022-01-20 15:11 ` Livingood, Jason
  2022-01-20 19:50   ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Livingood, Jason @ 2022-01-20 15:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht, bloat, cerowrt-devel

In my personal opinion, these agencies are usually quite happy to have comments from technical experts. If any of you do make comments, making them concise and not too complex will tend to ensure they are widely read and internalized. ;-)

In the details, I could certainly see folks in this community being able to credibly comment on question 13 [1] given its mention of latency and quality.

Jason

[1] "What guidance or requirements, if any, should NTIA consider with respect to network
reliability and availability, cybersecurity, resiliency, latency, or other service quality features and
metrics? What criteria should NTIA establish to assess grant recipients’ plans to ensure that service providers maintain and/or exceed thresholds for reliability, quality of service, sustainability, upgradability and other required service characteristics?"

On 1/18/22, 16:19, "Bloat on behalf of Dave Taht" <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

    This is the first time in years that I felt that maybe something we
    said could get through to an agency of the US government. The deadline
    for filing is feb 4th,
    and it would be nice if some of the billions on the table got spent on
    better routers, software, and networks.

    https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ntia.gov/files/ntia/publications/fr-iija-broadband-rfc.pdf__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUlLAE9NwQ$

    In their RFC there are 36 questions, some of which are pretty good.

    I've been participating a bit in this forum:
    https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discuss.broadband.money/c/broadband-grant-events/scott-woods-ama__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUlnwITAjA$
    among other things I dragged out last week was the "upgrade in place"
    idea. There's 3 weeks or so to come up with
    something worth filing, but as usual these days I'm always looking for
    collaborators?



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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] ntia broadband RFC
  2022-01-20 15:11 ` [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
@ 2022-01-20 19:50   ` Dave Taht
  2022-02-01 20:38     ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2022-01-20 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Livingood, Jason; +Cc: bloat, cerowrt-devel

I intend to use the illustrative cartoon here at some point, if I get on this.

https://blog.discourse.org/2022/01/discourse-gives-back-2021

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 7:11 AM Livingood, Jason
<Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> wrote:
>
> In my personal opinion, these agencies are usually quite happy to have comments from technical experts. If any of you do make comments, making them concise and not too complex will tend to ensure they are widely read and internalized. ;-)
>
> In the details, I could certainly see folks in this community being able to credibly comment on question 13 [1] given its mention of latency and quality.
>
> Jason
>
> [1] "What guidance or requirements, if any, should NTIA consider with respect to network
> reliability and availability, cybersecurity, resiliency, latency, or other service quality features and
> metrics? What criteria should NTIA establish to assess grant recipients’ plans to ensure that service providers maintain and/or exceed thresholds for reliability, quality of service, sustainability, upgradability and other required service characteristics?"
>
> On 1/18/22, 16:19, "Bloat on behalf of Dave Taht" <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     This is the first time in years that I felt that maybe something we
>     said could get through to an agency of the US government. The deadline
>     for filing is feb 4th,
>     and it would be nice if some of the billions on the table got spent on
>     better routers, software, and networks.
>
>     https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ntia.gov/files/ntia/publications/fr-iija-broadband-rfc.pdf__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUlLAE9NwQ$
>
>     In their RFC there are 36 questions, some of which are pretty good.
>
>     I've been participating a bit in this forum:
>     https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discuss.broadband.money/c/broadband-grant-events/scott-woods-ama__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUlnwITAjA$
>     among other things I dragged out last week was the "upgrade in place"
>     idea. There's 3 weeks or so to come up with
>     something worth filing, but as usual these days I'm always looking for
>     collaborators?
>
>
>
>     --
>     I tried to build a better future, a few times:
>     https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https*3A*2F*2Fwww.icei.org__;JSUl!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUnbOe7hAA$
>
>     Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>     _______________________________________________
>     Bloat mailing list
>     Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>     https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUnPllTvyw$
>


-- 
I tried to build a better future, a few times:
https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org

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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] ntia broadband RFC
  2022-01-20 19:50   ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
@ 2022-02-01 20:38     ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2022-02-01 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Livingood, Jason; +Cc: bloat, cerowrt-devel

I still have not got on this, and the filing deadline is feb 4th. If
anyone wants to weigh in...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FjRo9MNnVOLh733SNPNyqaR1IFee7Q5qbMrmW1PlPr8/edit?usp=sharing

possibly leveraging some of this:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T21on7g1MqQZoK91epUdxLYFGdtyLRgBat0VXoC9e3I/edit

Go for it! I am low on words this month.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 11:50 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I intend to use the illustrative cartoon here at some point, if I get on this.
>
> https://blog.discourse.org/2022/01/discourse-gives-back-2021
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 7:11 AM Livingood, Jason
> <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com> wrote:
> >
> > In my personal opinion, these agencies are usually quite happy to have comments from technical experts. If any of you do make comments, making them concise and not too complex will tend to ensure they are widely read and internalized. ;-)
> >
> > In the details, I could certainly see folks in this community being able to credibly comment on question 13 [1] given its mention of latency and quality.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > [1] "What guidance or requirements, if any, should NTIA consider with respect to network
> > reliability and availability, cybersecurity, resiliency, latency, or other service quality features and
> > metrics? What criteria should NTIA establish to assess grant recipients’ plans to ensure that service providers maintain and/or exceed thresholds for reliability, quality of service, sustainability, upgradability and other required service characteristics?"
> >
> > On 1/18/22, 16:19, "Bloat on behalf of Dave Taht" <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >     This is the first time in years that I felt that maybe something we
> >     said could get through to an agency of the US government. The deadline
> >     for filing is feb 4th,
> >     and it would be nice if some of the billions on the table got spent on
> >     better routers, software, and networks.
> >
> >     https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ntia.gov/files/ntia/publications/fr-iija-broadband-rfc.pdf__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUlLAE9NwQ$
> >
> >     In their RFC there are 36 questions, some of which are pretty good.
> >
> >     I've been participating a bit in this forum:
> >     https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discuss.broadband.money/c/broadband-grant-events/scott-woods-ama__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUlnwITAjA$
> >     among other things I dragged out last week was the "upgrade in place"
> >     idea. There's 3 weeks or so to come up with
> >     something worth filing, but as usual these days I'm always looking for
> >     collaborators?
> >
> >
> >
> >     --
> >     I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> >     https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https*3A*2F*2Fwww.icei.org__;JSUl!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUnbOe7hAA$
> >
> >     Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     Bloat mailing list
> >     Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> >     https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUnPllTvyw$
> >
>
>
> --
> I tried to build a better future, a few times:
> https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org
>
> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC



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