From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 375193B25E; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id o80so133358891wme.1; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:18:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=cVkuwgJCMFzkeS8irSB1oTJFeFhHNcLl+Et8GR0G6Ro=; b=wtdawB4hSVI8Wtcv7DiSoCcpwFjolWFkm7IWuA/iG9B+2gHQfUB+1I88tqwLWDYaRA kKSo3OM93c4XHTgDVs9CHTZQFwyjUDIy6a4k3O/PEBc2quUO3x7m3twk16ZV4rWuUwCo BRiPrK72st5OG5LL7MZwi8xZ6+X4fXNUWUj75I9DfZoyydbr9eTHA9GE9rCMRWMrjTV5 TtOYI0+F5h6XqR2q61hl0Nc4C0R2REhnR64/GAiGnkd+YCVuQhPd/1p+PjQ1rrx24rqt /8W2W6HbAvIcO1hnwRAqy/95V3v6mRfgdoNMQiqH4GL1ODKofhzN7NUyz6YmJqAzpyZZ 7tgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=cVkuwgJCMFzkeS8irSB1oTJFeFhHNcLl+Et8GR0G6Ro=; b=NW8SizALshKD/WXrqHD+yZskELy3pNNtVdhESnlBymfOGXIK22IyZes9nAJ62F7uvs QNaf+G+aFos/Sn9YCac5PCJarIg7K12Lh+l9bR5aj8EC18DQo7JB7PCAFyxDGQ/ATbrX eQsPYbQyh5i96I+UDWxCoHcgcO9zsKOtwa+atuxGkXgMCf1BXruQQdshBo+uZc+IU9E/ BtFBTBVSkY0SQvkY4rfucrz+urP16uAcu8rhDn1jsXImZ348UkH/R+TsKCPTLei/Bqk1 CXRpzmu/IJney9isdLBu6uDp+kCE5dKLE0p28LkBGUoOpbQ6Lose8/bmqSZ2/S5rJoxC BxMA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousUb4F5oyHYELXSUzB4UZb5smUkNv3jEtNKmaxMzmT+3HIEVKlgwJTr0UI74hrr5g== X-Received: by 10.25.208.131 with SMTP id h125mr956900lfg.214.1470867503150; Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dygygcdv5p1y7t4flcvnt-4.rev.dnainternet.fi (dygygcdv5p1y7t4flcvnt-4.rev.dnainternet.fi. [2001:14bb:140:510e:3965:41b8:6089:1457]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m62sm7989198lfe.44.2016.08.10.15.18.21 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 10 Aug 2016 15:18:22 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <877fbo9t4v.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2016 01:18:18 +0300 Cc: Dave Taht , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Felix Fietkau Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <736D102C-3383-457B-96C4-D1B1403F48AE@gmail.com> References: <76eb6a6a-2f39-3b36-d4c1-04198083c0f6@gmail.com> <87oa50acnr.fsf@toke.dk> <87bn109tv8.fsf@toke.dk> <877fbo9t4v.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] wifi airtime fairness patches could use eyeballs and testing X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 22:18:24 -0000 > On 11 Aug, 2016, at 01:05, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = wrote: >=20 > There are cwnd reductions, yes, but are they drops? My thought was = that they were retransmissions caused by OOO packets? You should be able to find the retransmitted packets, in that case. But = FQ shouldn=E2=80=99t be reordering packets within the same flow. - Jonathan Morton