From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from resdmta-a1p-077302.sys.comcast.net (resdmta-a1p-077302.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fd01:2bb4::c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B5B83B29E for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2023 17:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from resomta-a1p-076781.sys.comcast.net ([96.103.145.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resdmta-a1p-077302.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id dUsWq2AJgwm68ddhpqRZA9; Tue, 05 Sep 2023 21:35:29 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcastmailservice.net; s=20211018a; t=1693949729; bh=RyzEZjnW+EHDHYu8vNCVLDFMdl8k8Zq0jybRQ4lprUQ=; h=Received:Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject: To:From:Content-Type:Xfinity-Spam-Result; b=H5atXlg5K/jnulLN9efgiGkO7HdXk4l1XJU+Y61nScdpBmWtbSbGRcc9yHJdpqU/F c/5Y4MDFHornK4USMuLI9KN5NW2WZR5132dMAwr0DpkjYT67p4kg0ZzoRpaw8AdA++ xe8snKBWO8tNgaIgDVM76VQRbvamb7xdyPiA0T14ZgqAidTsPyiHfsDD3XqXvuXP+9 JTGpYRr06mPmMbaXGi1M9Ts1l9yOV52dqlVfDeu75kOZ2RXJTMGoIRnwS5xt4Lyl6d /21Bh8867Enr7oelMsfF44p8AvHwIGQqMGy3e90QQAoys1A86oVMh91z1hIptr6rW/ CzpXBrst4VRIg== Received: from home.sewingwitch.com ([IPv6:2600:1700:a64d:600e:2e0:81ff:feb5:9463]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 256/256 bits) (Client did not present a certificate) by resomta-a1p-076781.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id ddhGqj7z68cmKddhMqj040; Tue, 05 Sep 2023 21:35:05 +0000 X-Xfinity-VAAS: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedviedrudehvddgtdduucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuvehomhgtrghsthdqtfgvshhipdfqfgfvpdfpqffurfetoffkrfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedtudenucenucfjughrpefkffggfgfuvfhfhfgjtgfgsehtjeertddtvdejnecuhfhrohhmpefmvghnnhgvthhhucfrohhrthgvrhcuoehshhhivhgrsehsvgifihhnghifihhttghhrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeehjefhueeffeefgfekgfefteejfedvgfdtveeiuedugedvveeuhfduhfeftedvkeenucffohhmrghinhephigtohhmsghinhgrthhorhdrtghomhenucfkphepvdeitddtmedujedttdemrgeigegumeeitddtvgemvdgvtdemkedufhhfmehfvggsheemleegieefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghlohephhhomhgvrdhsvgifihhnghifihhttghhrdgtohhmpdhinhgvthepvdeitddtmedujedttdemrgeigegumeeitddtvgemvdgvtdemkedufhhfmehfvggsheemleegieefpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepshhhihhvrgesshgvfihinhhgfihithgthhdrtghomhdpnhgspghrtghpthhtohepuddprhgtphhtthhopegtvghrohifrhhtqdguvghvvghlsehlihhsthhsrdgsuhhffhgvrhgslhhorghtrdhnvght X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=0.00;st=legit Received: from [10.96.7.39] ([10.96.7.39]) (authenticated bits=0) by home.sewingwitch.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 385LYpCr003736 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Sep 2023 14:34:51 -0700 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 home.sewingwitch.com 385LYpCr003736 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sewingwitch.com; s=default; t=1693949692; bh=RyzEZjnW+EHDHYu8vNCVLDFMdl8k8Zq0jybRQ4lprUQ=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=h+UrtEu+BLU3es9YO523jU8P2uM5a2Z0zon+doofMBt2WShwNQ7eD8Y1TWEMfnV/X sqOo8y79PmJV5ooa8s7MQnPxPLEwbPHBSkMmBPpLfnB2jJTmLnVxJvYeYZYTFfpEnp Foc+8d5Nr/lGgf/7JcDdTQOeJhtDUT0xnnjV/Sxk= Message-ID: <808d3327-10fc-479b-abbf-7a7cc1a5846f@sewingwitch.com> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 14:34:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net References: Content-Language: en-US From: Kenneth Porter In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 3.4.1 on 10.96.0.132 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] fcc commish engages on hackernews X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2023 21:35:30 -0000 On 9/5/2023 9:48 AM, Dave Taht via Cerowrt-devel wrote: > > really made my day: > > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37392676 The pushback in the comments is good. We don't need more labels. We need the right to repair abandonware and the right to probe products we own for security issues, without fear of prison. Publishing those findings in reviews would be more effective than labels.