From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1510E21F304 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F92E1A6; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by sandelman.ca (Postfix, from userid 179) id 2634C637EA; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13077636B6; Thu, 19 Mar 2015 13:04:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Jim Gettys In-Reply-To: References: <20150316203532.05BD21E2@taggart.lackof.org> <123130.1426635142@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <15A0911A-E3B7-440A-A26B-C5E1489EA98B@viagenie.ca> <1426773234.362612992@apps.rackspace.com> <88375E7E-8656-4DB6-8389-89C7B9DD7DF4@viagenie.ca> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.3-dev; GNU Emacs 24.4.2 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Sender: mcr@sandelman.ca Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] DOCSIS 3+ recommendation? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 17:04:40 -0000 Jim Gettys wrote: > Moral 1: anything not tested by being used on an ongoing basis, > doesn't work. > Moral 2: Companies like Comcast do not (currently) control their own > destiny, since they outsourced too much of the technology to others. Moral 2 might be something that the C* suite types might actuall get. I don't know how to get that message there, though. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [