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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Simon Kelley <simon@thekelleys.org.uk>
Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] DNSSEC & NTP Bootstrapping
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 20:38:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871txut453.fsf@alrua-x1.karlstad.toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <532DD9DD.8040301@thekelleys.org.uk> (Simon Kelley's message of "Sat, 22 Mar 2014 18:43:41 +0000")

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Simon Kelley <simon@thekelleys.org.uk> writes:

> One possibility would be to store the current time in NVRAM. When the
> router comes up, that gives a lower bound on the current time, and
> would solve attacks using old keys.

This is already implemented (basically it finds the most recently
modified file in /etc and sets the time to that; I think there's also a
script that periodically refreshes some file there), and works to keep
time during a reboot. However, when first flashing an image, the time
will be whatever time that image was created...

> Less drastic would be to disable the key-time checks for this phase.
> Simplest would be a config flag: start it up with that flag whilst NTP
> does its stuff, them restart without when the clock is OK. Another
> option would be to disable the checks when the query arrives from a
> "magic" loopback address: maybe 127.110.116.112 (127.'n'.'t'.'p')

The magic address would require the resolver and/or the ntp daemon to be
patched? What about a config option that adds a grace time? Say enable
dnssec after N seconds?

-Toke

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-22 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-22  3:33 Joseph Swick
2014-03-22 17:42 ` Dave Taht
2014-03-22 18:43   ` Simon Kelley
2014-03-22 19:38     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2014-03-22 19:42       ` Simon Kelley
2014-03-22 20:00         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-24 21:39           ` Simon Kelley
2014-03-27 20:38           ` Simon Kelley
2014-03-28  7:57             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-28  9:08               ` Simon Kelley
2014-03-28  9:18                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-28 10:41                   ` Simon Kelley
2014-03-28 10:48                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-28 19:46                       ` Simon Kelley
2014-03-28 20:55                       ` Simon Kelley
2014-03-29  9:20                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-29 10:55                           ` [Cerowrt-devel] DNSSEC & NTP Bootstrapping -- prototype! Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-29 21:21                             ` Michael Richardson
2014-03-29 21:30                               ` Dave Taht
2014-03-30 13:21                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-30 16:59                                   ` Dave Taht
2014-03-30 18:38                                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-30 19:30                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-30 20:06                                     ` Dave Taht
2014-03-30 20:51                                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-31 12:42                                         ` Robert Bradley
2014-03-31 17:26                                           ` Robert Bradley
2014-03-22 21:15   ` [Cerowrt-devel] DNSSEC & NTP Bootstrapping Joseph Swick
2014-03-23 10:12     ` Aaron Wood
2014-03-23 11:15       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-23 12:11         ` David Personette
2014-03-23 12:20           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-23 12:22         ` Aaron Wood
2014-03-23 22:41           ` Michael Richardson
2014-03-24  9:51             ` Aaron Wood
2014-03-24  9:59               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-24 12:29                 ` Chuck Anderson
2014-03-24 13:39                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-24 14:31                     ` Alijah Ballard
2014-03-24 13:54                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2014-03-24 19:12 ` Phil Pennock
2014-03-24 20:27   ` David Personette
2014-03-24 21:30     ` Phil Pennock
2014-03-24 21:58     ` Dave Taht
2014-03-25  9:55       ` David Personette
2014-03-25 14:25       ` Michael Richardson
2014-03-24 21:03   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-24 22:09     ` Török Edwin
2014-03-24 23:33       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2014-03-25  1:16         ` Joseph Swick
2014-03-24 22:16     ` Phil Pennock

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