From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail2.tohojo.dk (mail2.tohojo.dk [77.235.48.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97E4821F22D for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 02:02:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail2.tohojo.dk Sender: toke@toke.dk DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=toke.dk; s=201310; t=1430125317; bh=oBtfAUQwcN8+H2WcIN2iLzvRPVVS6vfZZtN8O18Xm3U=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=fWcPIbF9uty5L6AC8lqVlbSLmaPBsAZGMxo+Qr5oABI/2Y9vU1x5r92zL9/M4VO4m 5DUHTUMpBQ4Jqpd16kKpkVfVb2D2I/mqXfnwL5q5+sn5bAuT4+kT0x2bfPOH9YQU1R qmTSFYWh8Er/Oa+3PC1u2CebwWFAK4RTIX6NYl0Q= Received: by alrua-kau.kau.toke.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C3265C4026E; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:01:55 +0200 (CEST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= To: Daniel Borkmann References: <553DF3C7.2000301@iogearbox.net> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 11:01:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <553DF3C7.2000301@iogearbox.net> (Daniel Borkmann's message of "Mon, 27 Apr 2015 10:31:03 +0200") X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <874mo23px8.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] ding dong is the debian drop tail queue dead? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 09:02:34 -0000 Daniel Borkmann writes: > Based on the version, looks like it takes one more stable release > (219-7 is in experimental): > > https://packages.debian.org/jessie/systemd ...but looking at the packaging rules for that (the 219-7 in experimental), it seems debian does not use the upstream rules. The debian 'rules' file contains: rm -f debian/install/*/usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf An old changelog from v204 (dated Apr 26 last year) has this explanation: * Do not install sysctl.d/50-default.conf because the systemd package should not change kernel policies, at least until it will become the only supported init system. -Toke