From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-1.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-1.mimecast.com [207.211.31.120]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E20373CB37 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 05:29:05 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1590571745; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=sD17OhXd+pkv1skluPYQEoupIx4p1LUEhW655FZ+2+I=; b=i0yxryDj4p7G64/nWcZGJS/5/fJnpdhG/vNX8nVH4P47JT/rRVDf58NuCy1ndEmFm2v6F7 O0/NkDnpcHcb8WImZTJUr4fHu0ToUuVxIoJc5sMNFyY4ke0AArYUA961YeyFf3t86W+wQv IuwbafMxLjaJWu7GxZ8sTlG6VabMD70= Received: from mail-ej1-f72.google.com (mail-ej1-f72.google.com [209.85.218.72]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-109-EXBZfKdlO5ydJYBdeS-NNA-1; Wed, 27 May 2020 05:29:00 -0400 X-MC-Unique: EXBZfKdlO5ydJYBdeS-NNA-1 Received: by mail-ej1-f72.google.com with SMTP id d14so634294ejt.14 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 02:29:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=sD17OhXd+pkv1skluPYQEoupIx4p1LUEhW655FZ+2+I=; b=T0ZF1doxB+2T+EEouXoaU5pQ/mioG9WHh+uHzUk0o9pHlN0sTEZN87Ns26B2HuQamA 95gb3yNK2TvY9Ra6VNW+dcbBIRM9prNdDUUpIKq8i6Le+CS25OoVuMXo8CDZwro8oBre k4eqdstL9NwcfLdCygveR2qPh15FDZSFOclXXlztWsaG5zRyjrwvpkPFFhOQ4ygiOoll OR+lHnH2k0FZfXgiuxJ+sCy8AHR8O5SdlEkBYcXFQBCtI9JT53cg/465UdgPRkAeWumF Sc/qNNAB6++xZjnzZoYRlIygqlBl2qMt712cwZh70gViU7loiWLzrn3MMZBukJuzjf64 UNiw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531u5usMYzqm8QzMd0/TTPXwKcOTGj8qz6MErSUUS2wkJRRv7vfc QLBQjio3MgZ4eGQrcLvRpivnkbwCvP1KX9oiz1XnwCG1hr5Ms8lfZZYqwbxgwYf8ooYLa2eXTHj gnrXf8pF3CDyQVr0CutSxJPwNA9rKUb89Gw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3597:: with SMTP id o23mr5017967ejb.174.1590571739564; Wed, 27 May 2020 02:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzPkutQ8acRSs53c82aCXQDJnptB6gpX/72FTHPYL9bZvX088aEBrjkUN3Ktl6SKUUOT6u3JA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3597:: with SMTP id o23mr5017942ejb.174.1590571739308; Wed, 27 May 2020 02:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alrua-x1.borgediget.toke.dk ([45.145.92.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id cz9sm1720088edb.18.2020.05.27.02.28.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 27 May 2020 02:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by alrua-x1.borgediget.toke.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43EC01804EB; Wed, 27 May 2020 11:28:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= To: Matthew Ford , Sebastian Moeller Cc: Cake List , Make-Wifi-fast , cerowrt-devel , bloat In-Reply-To: <289C7A4A-28B1-4692-AA2B-209347E65415@isoc.org> References: <05410663-5E50-4CF5-8ADE-3BBB985E32B1@gmx.de> <289C7A4A-28B1-4692-AA2B-209347E65415@isoc.org> X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 11:28:57 +0200 Message-ID: <878shd3ew6.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] dslreports is no longer free X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 09:29:06 -0000 Matthew Ford writes: > What's the bufferbloat verdict on https://speed.cloudflare.com/ ? Huh, didn't know about that. Seems they're measuring the latency before the download test, though, so no bufferbloat numbers. If anyone knows someone at Cloudflare we could try to bug to get this fixed, that would be awesome! Their FAQ links to https://www.speedcheck.org/ for "troubleshooting tips". And of course that page doesn't seem to mention latency or bufferbloat at all :( -Toke