From: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>,
cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] meanwhile... .home, finally has a home.arpa.
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 09:39:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d0rznvs5.fsf@taht.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1810241018190.26856@uplift.swm.pp.se> (Mikael Abrahamsson's message of "Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:22:54 +0200 (CEST)")
Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> writes:
> On Tue, 23 Oct 2018, Dave Taht wrote:
>
>> I just ping6 my upstream dns server, roughly the same algorithm. But
>> if it goes down, you don't want to take away the local ipv6 addresses,
>> just the default route, and when you do that, you end up falling back to
>> ipv4.
>
> I want to lower the preferred lifetime for the PD PIO from that
> connection to 0 when upstream lifecheck fails (ie, send RA with 0
> preferred lifetime). So correct, don't take away the addresses, just
> make sure they're not chosen anymore for outgoing connections.
>
>> You probably live in a place with reliable power. I get a power
>> flicker at least once a week. the corest routers are on battery
>> backup but that only lasts a few hours and the last big outage was
>> about 9 hours about 6 weeks ago. When everything reboots, chaos
>> reigns. When only some things reboot, different kinds of chaos
>> reign.
>
> Right. The frequent re-addressing of interfaces (every time it goes up
> and down actually) is one thing I pointed out years ago is a weak spot
> in the homenet implementation.
SLAAC remains my preference. :)
>
>> Secondly a usable set of /56s would be "enough" in my case (about 40
>> boxes), /60 doesn't divide into that.
>
> Agreed, /56 is what's needed.
>
>> thirdly, I don't want to assign routable ipv6 prefixes to
>> everything, just to end-user APs and when I last tried hnpd it
>> wanted to give even my p2p boxes /64s
>
> Yes, it allocates /64 per interface. You can share interface with
> multiple things by creating bridge interfaces.
Well, openwrt has the ability to use a tag like "local" or "ula".
I do not know if hnetd will pick that up or not.
Can't bridge a network this wide over this many wifi links.
>> fourthly, we have dnsmasq, odhcpd, odhcpc, babel and hnetd all
>> battling it out with slightly different notions of how to
>> redistribute things.
>
> Right, a device that speaks homenet should not request PD.
But I need that to get from my ISP.
>
>> I've come to rather appreciate NAT for what it does to separate my
>> policies from my ISP's.
>
> Configuring static ULA addresses might be a way to handle it. Doesn't
> help reaching them from the outside though. We need DNS or other
> mechanism to keep track of addresses as they change over time.
Wish. And long ago we tried to publish a draft that tied dns names
simply to slaac addresses.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-24 16:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-23 3:51 Dave Taht
2018-10-23 4:13 ` Ted Lemon
2018-10-23 15:09 ` Dave Taht
2018-10-23 15:42 ` Ted Lemon
2018-10-23 16:15 ` Dave Taht
2018-10-23 16:44 ` Ted Lemon
2018-10-23 15:47 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-10-23 16:12 ` Dave Taht
2018-10-24 8:22 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-10-24 16:39 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2018-10-24 18:04 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2018-10-23 23:28 ` Michael Richardson
2018-10-23 23:38 ` Dave Taht
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