From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [52.28.52.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 665373B29E for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2018 08:52:51 -0500 (EST) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1518702770; bh=HxWNW6WMFvWKTD+SLhH1LPWqy1gpsMICm3CmtcT/G4s=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=CNytr5oDvd0n8tJz0LaJVcX1WPfFi2rXsbsJ6uoyjzhh9AmyZ65NnIMjTmnSNsEY6 yD6YhEd3SaL++KVhqKcBFc8FdRM8SVV0PEIVvlDLTZoVRO4dzR0x3Jce/tUjIvsIbh x6lCrBVeWUXbYpNmczfqSaQaQDK02pKKFEPskkMAJ2DR1FB0pIcekeN6eMh1YVt/0l HyDkF2UlqPHjXx4tv7AubHvu0Fpcd821cdVa0xMksr7GxJjQrjhtMCm9slMpPg9oxw jSfmKDwxz6oNsHtYa7M84v0Vt7LeXeTWex0IIcoG1k6AEaeMKkoKpkx8ncU82kKCZ0 PS5s3Yb0HWmbQ== To: Jonathan Morton , dpreed@deepplum.com Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: References: <1518702402.737522502@mobile.rackspace.com> Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 14:52:49 +0100 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87fu628imm.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] anyone fiddlng with these? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:52:51 -0000 Jonathan Morton writes: > Hear, hear. > > Besides - exactly how is "securely sending messages to the web" useful > in any way? That's the part I've never been able to figure out about > the IoT nonsense. How else would you make sure your toothbrush phoned home to the mothership? https://gizmodo.com/the-house-that-spied-on-me-1822429852 -Toke