From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [45.145.95.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F32B53B2A4 for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2020 06:50:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1585565450; bh=BoTkB8oXKbGpjGI0PzSfSxK25wTLj+F1CdbjqUyMtu4=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=l3bVPmv1WLzRKVmODZaa1vZpUAvR34l6qrtvq0diT30mgDD/PuoG1mmbXsJ3eWcQT Jyp5APTME9qCm9P08GrfQbYuPpVduke6y++wHNr1I0f7lVySsrEU8L4uS3y46VzCb8 EJySVE+NiQhxF7fg7H5QSsIO0/FsYN4ztC1DDFI7UMMH/Cj3xzbXqFl7rjHzV/Pyic kt4SHVTAtWvN22yiyr1oTYjbsnqRTVta0lomZvRSBW9OoAVj6nnAKamqk7rguTiC01 rAiJy0QZuZMvlrk69MsZtVfOIYN7YKoAagkg1sDFW19b4bv4mZOar8oJImTs/fGh5k c4F1oHyo2tgXQ== To: "David P. Reed" , Dave Taht Cc: cerowrt-devel In-Reply-To: <1585517451.633325859@apps.rackspace.com> References: <1585517451.633325859@apps.rackspace.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 12:50:43 +0200 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87imimjev0.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] AQL in openwrt head, but not 19 stable X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:50:54 -0000 "David P. Reed" writes: > Pragmatically, I solve this by a mixed, manual strategy. My entry > router at home isn't OpenWRT based, it only connects a WAN GigE port > to a home LAN GigE port. I use multiple APs, and for now solve the > "make wifi fast" problem by using one 5 GHz channel per AP, and enough > APs so I can have only one laptop or phone per AP/channel. And the > bulk of my heavy dutu use is wired to a 10 GigE backbone in the house. > That way, most of my file transfers only interfere with the same > endpoints interactions. > > I'd really like to not have to do this, but to be honest, maintaining > OpenWRT, and dealing with the super-proprietary garbage in WiFi > chipsets is just a waste of my time, which is spent on other efforts - > I can buy my way out by treating APs as disposable, suboptimal crap. > > I'd really like to see someone fund you guys and to actually learn what you know. > > The atheros, broadcom, and other chip providers are the obvious source > of support, but for some reason they don't want to compete on getting > rid of bloat in the airwaves. > > Maybe some Chinese company is motivated to beat Qualcomm and Broadcom > by going open in their packet handling driver code and letting you > guys make it work? That would be MediaTek (Taiwanese, though). They got Felix to write the upstream driver (mt76), and I'm sure it'll surprise no one that it's quite good. Haven't had a chance to actually install any of the hardware yet, although I do have a few cards lying on my desk, biding their time. -Toke