From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from korolev.univ-paris7.fr (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [IPv6:2001:660:3301:8000::1:2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD4813B2AE for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 07:05:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [81.194.30.253]) by korolev.univ-paris7.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4/relay1/56228) with ESMTP id u5OB4ln7002686; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:04:47 +0200 Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D6E61FA2; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:04:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at math.univ-paris-diderot.fr Received: from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10023) with ESMTP id nmgqg3yFQB8C; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:04:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from trurl.pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr (col75-1-78-194-40-74.fbxo.proxad.net [78.194.40.74]) (Authenticated sender: jch) by mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A82561F9D; Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:04:46 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:04:48 +0200 Message-ID: <87mvma26gf.wl-jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> From: Juliusz Chroboczek To: Jonathan Morton Cc: Dave Taht , "babel-users@lists.alioth.debian.org" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" In-Reply-To: <0173B4D2-C84A-4200-B388-F8E964CAEB86@gmail.com> References: <87lh1xihnv.wl-jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> <87vb0zpnel.wl-jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> <87oa6rpl7h.wl-jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> <87mvmbpi7d.wl-jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> <0173B4D2-C84A-4200-B388-F8E964CAEB86@gmail.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (korolev.univ-paris7.fr [194.254.61.138]); Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:04:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at korolev with ID 576D13CF.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 576D13CF.002 from mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/null/mailhub.math.univ-paris-diderot.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 576D13CF.002 on korolev.univ-paris7.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.000 -> S=0.000 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Why we are discussing ARM [was: Cross-compiling to armhf] X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:05:20 -0000 > They can both run armhf userspace, Just to make sure the audience is not confused: the Raspberry Pi 1 cannot run Debian armhf, which requires ARMv7. It can run either Debian armel, which doesn't use floating point, or Raspbian, which is Debian recompiled for ARMv6 with hardware floating point. > I agree however that none of the R-Pis make good routers at the performance > levels we want. They just don’t have the right kind of I/O: we need > direct or PCIe attachment of Ethernet and wifi MACs, not USB and SDIO. Agreed. Who's going to save us? -- Juliusz