Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project
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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>, Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>
Cc: cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] fq_pie for linux
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 21:23:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o99rizii.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1A5DC4D6-EAE7-4FE5-A553-A8989621907E@gmail.com>

Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> writes:

>> On 11 Dec, 2018, at 8:32 pm, Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> With all the variants of fq+AQM, maybe decoupling the FQ part and the
>> AQM part would be worthwhile, instead of reimplementing it for each
>> variant...
>> 
>> That's a great idea, Toke.  There are a lot of places where I think it could work well, especially if it took a pluggable hash function for the hashing (at which point it's very general-purpose, and works on all sorts of different kinds of packets and workloads).  That would let it be used for userspace VPN links (as an example), or within QUIC (or similar), where the kernel can't see the embedded flows that are hidden by the TLS encryption.
>> 
>> And having it pluggable in the kernel would also allow IPSec to work
>> without bloat (last I checked it was horribly bufferbloated, but that
>> was ~5 years ago).
>
> I wonder if it's worth extracting the triple-isolate and
> set-associative hash logic from Cake for this purpose?  The interface
> to COBALT is clean enough to be replaced by other AQMs relatively
> easily.

There's already a reusable FQ structure in the kernel (which is what the
WiFi stack uses), which is partially modelled on Cake's tins. I had half
a mind to try to have the two converge; Cake would shed some LOCs, and
the WiFi stack could get set-associativity...

-Toke

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-11 20:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-05 22:27 Dave Taht
2018-12-06  7:50 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-12-06 20:03   ` Dave Taht
2018-12-06 19:13     ` David Lang
2018-12-06 20:21       ` Dave Taht
2018-12-11 18:32   ` Aaron Wood
2018-12-11 18:37     ` Dave Taht
2018-12-11 18:38       ` Dave Taht
2018-12-11 18:38     ` Jonathan Morton
2018-12-11 18:39       ` Dave Taht
2018-12-11 20:23       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2018-12-11 20:35         ` Dave Taht

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