From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [52.28.52.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7E7A3B2A4 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2018 03:41:48 -0500 (EST) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1543999307; bh=jeKrMpgGUeWjSUXsp0Ic1xHN/jLwScIQ5IeTj6oR/cg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=nU09p4poPKzHW6my+y8yYTpVBOsMWrc2EPTYna0vUlFZQpgTQj//JJ1ScznxgzrS0 MzR/d5cCRE3Biki+MiiNjM8aJLjNvCqsmFC/0aIjuUxRP2ge52R+BlqxrW+psMnEEh 1JmHY75PgMvo4Ry8EYLMGCsLhgwXyjizvtNnPXI6p7WeOsqK3MH7rdIcQXmaZE4eVN F9+6y1X10XJscVfwJCCJGA2bCe8UjAEtVpx5j4WkWi4n1EDXakSMpNl1lDzicT3/by AetewcbZSI7LcP9YoR9pSbHi3KhZEgcGIGYuBpyRm/QRAWpA2qyRLhs1HUCUycNgwt ePoAlJuGNe1Kg== To: Mikael Abrahamsson , Dave Taht Cc: cerowrt-devel In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 10:41:45 +0200 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87pnuggyba.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] dlte X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2018 08:41:49 -0000 Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2018, Dave Taht wrote: > >> I expect dave reed to comment, so I'll withhold mine for now >> >> https://kurti.sh/pubs/dLTE-Johnson-HotNets-2018.pdf > > When I read the first page I was hopeful, then unfortunately I got > disappointed and just quickly scanned the rest. It's still tunneled and > the same architecture, just more distributed. > > I'd prefer if the device had two radios and could handle its own handover > for most traffic. Most traffic today is streaming video so when you want > to do handover just attach to the new radio, get new address, deprecate > the old address, open new connections using the new address/radio close > connections based on the old address, and move on. > > Traffic that needs to be always the same can be tunneled, Totally agree. I'll add that even persistent "connections" can do end-to-end mobility with changing addresses. Mosh is an example of an application that does this right. I believe Apple uses MPTCP to achieve the same thing with TCP... -Toke