From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail2.tohojo.dk (mail2.tohojo.dk [77.235.48.147]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 563E921F1F3 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:26:38 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail2.tohojo.dk DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=201310; t=1448904377; bh=IJ8GVHJgoD0SBIxHmZ8q/+qH7RKAUnyag0agbZHRrw0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=CiTM7l+WLDTAjQ/a9KkRNpqt0j97ONIRyVHh6Vr+704947mNZPapr4Oxor2RgpJ9v SEfMZAURSmD26cxqzR0vh3pFs/LmoEuCHvlpJz/uxPZqa++1AnE3GPYVibYY7sWu3e 8T0neitZGfQUrOJKdOfXVu9BUSWgWALqPXM+9zQ0= Sender: toke@toke.dk Received: by alrua-desktop.borgediget.toke.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 412AD2E63B; Mon, 30 Nov 2015 18:26:16 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= To: John Yates References: Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 18:26:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: (John Yates's message of "Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:18:01 -0500") X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87si3n5rgn.fsf@alrua-desktop.borgediget.toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Cc: Ondrej Filip , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] turris omnia cracks 300k in funding X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 17:27:00 -0000 John Yates writes: > Is there any firmware binary blobs? > > Just for the 5 GHz wifi card. The rest of the board is completely blob free. > > What obstacles will that present? Or is this as good as we can hope > for? A lot; basically, we can't touch the low-level WiFi stuff. However, the WiFi card is replaceable (as far as I've understood), so once we manage to get open firmware for any card, we can use that. So it's "just" a matter of convincing someone to open up their firmware... > Does detrimental buffering happen outside of such a blob? Outside, inside, all over the place :( -Toke