From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [IPv6:2a00:7660:6da:2001::664]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D120D3BA8E for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2018 04:08:04 -0500 (EST) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1544173682; bh=6X8RAO03/inDi9zgU1XCBej9/OfGwf8aBY7CMPZ/bDg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=AywUZM6O0mjTevD0wcsj+2Xd2VJd0nF5LwtIWNiLODlhFuFwCfegbdZV+s9f+SoBu 1EbCz5lzIWpFx+IVZk/AGcWhxejsvKWUqvUEEA7gL4KnsargWbBxf2AOds5sKdGZ87 +gU1T4MNTzKP3c/SZfGkFLt5zslIaVUMhGbddFNleNnSBhAXdf0Wy/YeJt/v1bGl4x SqPQooIvKvbFaqPLTtVcsyp0AZrEIWeRGO8Dn1C2mzMPnoB73Pd1Dw7oKNhNEGly84 Ws/4I5QeGdUXF0Vdi8rnwKFeMiaH1XMfb3G8ldcGJ014WRvLxvurOTF05MpGWTT4aa Ioz+4dYC/MjeQ== To: Dave Taht Cc: Mikael Abrahamsson , Dave Taht , cerowrt-devel In-Reply-To: <8736ra1k2p.fsf@taht.net> References: <87efawglui.fsf@toke.dk> <8736ra1k2p.fsf@taht.net> Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2018 11:08:00 +0200 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87woolg0wf.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] dlte X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2018 09:08:05 -0000 Dave Taht writes: > Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen writes: > >> Mikael Abrahamsson writes: >> >>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2018, Dave Taht wrote: >>> >>>> I expect dave reed to comment, so I'll withhold mine for now >>>> >>>> https://kurti.sh/pubs/dLTE-Johnson-HotNets-2018.pdf >>> >>> When I read the first page I was hopeful, then unfortunately I got=20 >>> disappointed and just quickly scanned the rest. It's still tunneled and= =20 >>> the same architecture, just more distributed. >> >> OK, now I read the paper, and I think you may have missed the part where >> they say that they terminate the tunnelling at the AP and assign new IPs >> whenever a client roams. So it's basically WiFi APs over the LTE >> layer-2... Which is pretty cool, I think :) > > It's still based on the false optimism that users will ever get to own > and control their own LTE AP. Well, they did say they had done proof of concept tests; and that they could build a base station for $8000... So might not be completely impossible... -Toke