From: JF Tremblay <jean-francois.tremblay@viagenie.ca>
To: dpreed@reed.com
Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 10:11:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <88375E7E-8656-4DB6-8389-89C7B9DD7DF4@viagenie.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1426773234.362612992@apps.rackspace.com>
> On Mar 19, 2015, at 9:53 AM, dpreed@reed.com wrote:
>
> How many years has it been since Comcast said they were going to fix bufferbloat in their network within a year?
Any quote on that?
> THat's a sign that the two dominant sectors of "Internet Access" business are refusing to support quality Internet service.
I’m not sure this is a fair statement. Comcast is a major (if not “the” player) in CableLabs, and they made it clear that for Docsis 3.1, aqm was one of the important target. This might not have happened without all the noise around bloat that Jim and Dave made for years. (now peering and transit disputes are another ball game)
While cable operators started pretty much with a blank slate in the early days of Docsis, they now have to deal with legacy and a huge tail of old devices. So in this respect, yes they are now a bit like the DSL incumbents, introduction of new technologies is over a 3-4 years timeframe at least.
> It's almost as if the cable companies don't want OTT video or simultaneous FTP and interactive gaming to work. Of course not. They'd never do that.
You might be surprised at how much they care for gamers, these are often their most vocal users. And those who will call to get things fixed. Support calls and truck rolls are expensive and touch the bottom line, where it hurts…
JF
(a former cable operator)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-03-19 14:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-03-16 20:35 Matt Taggart
2015-03-17 23:32 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2015-03-18 4:34 ` David P. Reed
2015-03-18 6:26 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-18 19:38 ` JF Tremblay
2015-03-18 19:50 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-19 13:53 ` dpreed
2015-03-19 14:11 ` JF Tremblay [this message]
2015-03-19 15:38 ` dpreed
2015-03-19 15:40 ` Jim Gettys
2015-03-19 17:04 ` Michael Richardson
2015-03-19 17:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-19 17:11 ` Dave Taht
2015-03-19 19:58 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] " Livingood, Jason
2015-03-19 20:29 ` dpreed
2015-03-19 23:18 ` Greg White
2015-03-20 8:18 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-03-20 13:31 ` David P. Reed
2015-03-20 13:46 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-03-20 14:05 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-03-20 10:07 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-03-20 13:50 ` [Cerowrt-devel] Latency Measurements in Speed Test suites (was: DOCSIS 3+ recommendation?) Rich Brown
2015-03-29 17:36 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] " Pedro Tumusok
2015-03-30 7:06 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-20 13:57 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] DOCSIS 3+ recommendation? Livingood, Jason
2015-03-20 14:08 ` David P. Reed
2015-03-20 14:14 ` MUSCARIELLO Luca IMT/OLN
2015-03-20 14:48 ` Matt Mathis
2015-03-20 18:04 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2015-03-20 13:48 ` Jim Gettys
2015-03-20 14:11 ` Livingood, Jason
2015-03-20 14:54 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-20 15:31 ` Jim Gettys
2015-03-20 15:39 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-20 16:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-20 20:59 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-20 23:47 ` David P. Reed
2015-03-21 0:08 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-21 0:03 ` David Lang
2015-03-21 0:13 ` Steinar H. Gunderson
2015-03-21 0:25 ` David Lang
2015-03-21 0:34 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-21 0:38 ` David Lang
2015-03-21 0:43 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-22 4:15 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-21 0:15 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-21 0:29 ` David Lang
2015-03-22 4:10 ` Michael Welzl
2015-03-20 18:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-03-18 8:06 ` [Cerowrt-devel] " Sebastian Moeller
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