From: moeller0 <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net,
bufferbloat-fcc-discuss
<bufferbloat-fcc-discuss@lists.redbarn.org>,
"cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"
<cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] arstechnica confirms tp-link router lockdown
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 19:25:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8E3D19C3-601A-41B6-B3F9-CD6B35BA96F5@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9C673B76-DBC5-4282-A03C-A273D02ACA3B@gmail.com>
Hi Jonathan,
> On Mar 13, 2016, at 19:17 , Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On 13 Mar, 2016, at 19:40, moeller0 <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>> Please note that the classic Nokia phone is dead as a doornail as far as popularity is concerned; that might speak against their ease of use compared with touch screen “smart phones”… (take home message might simply be “aim for a touch screen”)
>
> The first hit when Googling for “nokia feature phone sales figures” threw up a fairly recent article (http://www.ibtimes.com/microsoft-making-more-money-sales-feature-phones-smartphones-2154087) which states that:
>
> 1) Microsoft (which bought Nokia’s phone business) made more money from feature phones (the ones with tiny screens and physical keypads) than from smartphones that quarter. Since the ASP of a feature-phone is much lower than a smartphone, you can make the obvious conclusions about how *many* sold in each category.
>
> 2) Sales of feature phones actually *increased* over the previous quarter, and not by a trivial factor.
>
> Although the article then goes on to predict the complete demise of the feature-phone segment, that conclusion does not seem to be supported by the facts it quotes. It also mentions that feature-phones (with certain specific design features such as large buttons) are preferred by the elderly, even though touchscreen phones have larger screens and thus, theoretically, more space for large fonts.
>
> One factor you may not have considered is that feature-phones still sell very well in the third world, mainly because they’re durable, power-efficient and cheap, but their ease of use surely doesn’t hurt there.
>
> The *second* hit from that Google search is Wikipedia’s list of best-selling phones. Top of the list are the venerable Nokia 1100 and 1110, which together sold *half a billion* units over their lifetime. The famous 3310 sold “only” 150 million - and I still have mine. It’s on its third battery, which lasts an entire week on standby.
>
> - Jonathan Morton
>
I stand corrected. I am sorry that I distracted from the point I wanted to make by a rather pointless “drive-by” insult to feature phones. I also fondly remember my 3310, but I certainy do not want to go back there, that week of standby be damned ;)
Best Regards
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-13 18:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-11 18:17 [Cerowrt-devel] " Dave Taht
2016-03-11 18:22 ` Luis E. Garcia
2016-03-11 19:07 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-03-11 20:26 ` Alan Jenkins
2016-03-11 20:40 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [Make-wifi-fast] " David Lang
2016-03-12 9:38 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-03-13 0:15 ` David Lang
2016-03-13 15:18 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-03-13 17:40 ` moeller0
2016-03-13 18:17 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-03-13 18:25 ` moeller0 [this message]
2016-03-13 20:15 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-03-13 21:17 ` moeller0
[not found] ` <CAEfCu-p+87PkRrN-=9=-CA3JpQesRU2RDmxN-yEJt_95Au-yxA@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-13 17:48 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [bufferbloat-fcc-discuss] " Dave Taht
2016-03-13 18:23 ` moeller0
2016-03-13 23:22 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <CAEfCu-o7hb+6O0NNc4oUrn7noaVvBhBJK3zNjB8mWtgVtkqpZg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-14 1:03 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <CAEfCu-rQN+H7h0OY_3CSrrGcVZ=A4=b0XTAU2h3Pz3_ksh56dw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-12 19:15 ` [Cerowrt-devel] [bufferbloat-fcc-discuss] " Henning Rogge
[not found] ` <CAJ-Vmo=_zKnmN=yxDuTrKMPR_2gk+d1kzT0bsZYewTSMXCkcCg@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAEfCu-rmR=p1bAGJjPvaMMBAjKRU1wBeZW4ZQCZVm5eVXCCRQQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-12 22:20 ` Dave Taht
2016-03-13 1:04 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <CAEfCu-r-C3C6P2LpKJduvX733YnbwxBF6nOFAPEMbF28qjRXBg@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-13 8:06 ` David Lang
[not found] ` <CAJ-VmoneRhDXKEd5-v4FtRCiS+YmVrwedMhb3OsjzPiZ7L7HuQ@mail.gmail.com>
2016-03-14 1:25 ` David Lang
2016-03-13 18:19 ` Dave Taht
2016-03-13 1:00 ` David Lang
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