From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp121.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (smtp121.ord1c.emailsrvr.com [108.166.43.121]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A26921F336 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp16.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 57278380E2A; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 00:06:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp16.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed-AT-reed.com) with ESMTPSA id D438E380E27; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 00:06:13 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: K-@ Mail for Android X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: References: <53A9D92B.7010603@hp.com> <16169.1403645906@sandelman.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----YSZOSO66LWUV3KQC0XTHG4RAA0BK65" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "David P. Reed" Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 00:06:11 -0400 To: David Lang ,Michael Richardson Message-ID: <8aeaf238-4612-410e-8d07-38159873ea17@reed.com> Cc: Rick Jones , cerowrt-devel , bloat Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] =?utf-8?q?=5BBloat=5D=09_Dave_T=C3=A4ht_quoted_in?= =?utf-8?q?_the_ACLU_blog?= X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:08:12 -0000 ------YSZOSO66LWUV3KQC0XTHG4RAA0BK65 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Maybe I am misunderstanding something... it just took my Mac book Pro doing an rsync to copy a TB of data from a small NAS at work yesterday to get about 700 Gb/sec on a GigE office network for hours yesterday. I had to do that in our Santana Clara office rather than from home outside Boston, which is where I work 90% of the time. That's one little computer and one user... What does my Mac Book Pro draw doing that? 80 Watts? On Jun 27, 2014, David Lang wrote: >On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, Michael Richardson wrote: > >> Rick Jones wrote: >> > Perhaps, but where does having gigabit fibre to a business imply >the business >> > has the space, power, and cooling to host all the servers it >might need/wish >> > to have? >> >> That's a secondary decision. >> Given roof space, solar panels and/or snow-outside, maybe the answer >is that >> I regularly have 2 our of 3 of those available in a decentralized >way. > >given the amount of processing capacity that you can get today in a >pasively >cooled system, you can do quite a bit of serving from a small amount of >space >and power. > >The days when it took rooms of Sun boxes to saturate a Gb line are long >gone, >you can do that with just a handful of machines. > >David Lang >_______________________________________________ >Cerowrt-devel mailing list >Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net >https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel -- Sent from my Android device with K-@ Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ------YSZOSO66LWUV3KQC0XTHG4RAA0BK65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Maybe I am misunderstanding something... it just took my Mac book Pro doing an rsync to copy a TB of data from a small NASĀ  at work yesterday to get about 700 Gb/sec on a GigE office network for hours yesterday.

I had to do that in our Santana Clara office rather than from home outside Boston, which is where I work 90% of the time.

That's one little computer and one user...

What does my Mac Book Pro draw doing that? 80 Watts?

On Jun 27, 2014, David Lang wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2014, Michael Richardson wrote:

Rick Jones wrote:
Perhaps, but where does having gigabit fibre to a business imply the business
has the space, power, and cooling to host all the servers it might need/wish
to have?

That's a secondary decision.
Given roof space, solar panels and/or snow-outside, maybe the answer is that
I regularly have 2 our of 3 of those available in a decentralized way.

given the amount of processing capacity that you can get today in a pasively
cooled system, you can do quite a b it of serving from a small amount of space
and power.

The days when it took rooms of Sun boxes to saturate a Gb line are long gone,
you can do that with just a handful of machines.

David Lang


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