From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qg0-x235.google.com (mail-qg0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c04::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D09F93B2F5 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 19:46:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qg0-x235.google.com with SMTP id b67so100999391qgb.1 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 16:46:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=LlgiSUaLdrioX0whwJNILzt4BDDBwcSrjCVcp3qk9Tk=; b=HQ5QvokVo/dyYELREMkKmdNBS0/J13kuvD/PVPf8AVWy8V+QleTmxXq3akzhd6zoci GZ18x3sChwpa44O74NvIMk3Ufe2qx6Qyy85hsSx3ZTWp6T74Cr+f0BS9fhSlpfPypl56 arCp8JS1tjvqSiWJYCT4qVuvGaqnNel0qYxaxbUFIwYY0L0UhRvAx/f5B36AOUPjDea9 4oQbjBcK940APpyTPpZ6fW9iwz7ummvTwktlVcepa+E3iaeidHFpzC/YdmFbLn5r0V+d Izf2ZHUX1ubKuFdjs8PXL0WDh5fC9numZLHhi+43RJTm9gBGQE0TJ0S+VC0J9sotJQQG 04tA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=LlgiSUaLdrioX0whwJNILzt4BDDBwcSrjCVcp3qk9Tk=; b=dsht0h888xmeQX/20Se3tJskVJb+0OVcSDFznTwM9bvCOIbDZU3UyTr+AUVQOJTZVp 403oU/sczpLd/nr4HMurtXSkSJfxfbHv4Y7MoiNWHwgDCOhJ/hyfan2TdQ1x4n41xazM ljw9rTG1gtCROEqS4iNhyXxk9zyJZCV2P3P9UpJUcvNAOJE9ODJsJCRbHQvrZb97V52h NSNyZuJQFFbG3h6RJWqBt5cRPZMIkbtFcWs4wYcMIyJa7lAGPOTncFBfHYxjncemCzPD cCd6EcDjMPeo13fDL+E6nsdMlKbaSNylyNxpYyvFd7PBnIPoqkuEvi7Y6KUfVex8gEH8 1kaA== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORagdRklO6cgPHRgZ2f38LmWk+Bl8ygQ43pX1ijigrKZfEmdeMwZdRzmjKldccriw== X-Received: by 10.140.92.146 with SMTP id b18mr16964846qge.88.1455497186449; Sun, 14 Feb 2016 16:46:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from richs-mbp-484.lan (d-ptld-bng1-64-223-99-216.ngn.east.myfairpoint.net. [64.223.99.216]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g130sm10172457qkb.28.2016.02.14.16.46.24 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Feb 2016 16:46:25 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Rich Brown In-Reply-To: <56C0C6E3.6000700@taht.net> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 19:46:23 -0500 Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9325CC61-3295-4EE1-984C-8C23BB6FE80A@gmail.com> References: <56C0C6E3.6000700@taht.net> To: =?utf-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] archer c7v2 gets third party unupgradable firmware X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 00:46:26 -0000 Hi Dave, Since I appear to be one of the owners of the Archer C7 wiki page, can = you give me more info about the version number/package labelling/etc. so = that we can provide the info for people to identify that it's a bad one?=20= Thanks. Rich > On Feb 14, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Dave T=C3=A4ht wrote: >=20 > A pithy note on > https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/archer-c5-c7-wdr7500 - it = contains > a bitter "thank you" to the FCC - you can't upgrade the firmware to a > third party anymore. >=20 > I can confirm this - the archer c7v2 I got off of amazon last week has > firmware 3.14.3, and will not take a web upload of openwrt no matter > what I tried. I also failed to get a tftp upload to work (but did not > try hard enough). >=20 > So this rules out the netgear wndr 4300, and tp-link archer c7v2 for > future development efforts by the bufferbloat effort. >=20 > It's too bad - the cake qdisc is back at a "nearly ready" state and > could use some performance testing and optimization on these lower end > platforms, and I'd like to get make-wifi-fast off the ground. >=20 > I guess it would be good to collect a list of those companies that are > engaging in whole router firmware lockdown instead of just lockdown on > the radio, so we can avoid them in the future. > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel