From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x243.google.com (mail-lf0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E7303B2E1 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 21:46:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x243.google.com with SMTP id w130so9509894lfd.2 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:46:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=dvyoOKVnv6cN8dNA1clPPskVEwL9dRtp9xhmRqVK9+g=; b=hmjfifD77jAuSf+vMX03/tm/u4omW/Xp0xgtK7y43gFu/XnbCfdC8A5pWmkp8qIP1A I4FJJl2apPplAksw93HK33ZFvgCAY015ScqnlxgM7kZJosi5M/LdUfmryngnKdAVwvxN s42pR3evRwMOfeCSaE9iCHA9HQwOCHlsY9/DkBSbGoddjGhlpR1pyNg8sHnVp6aBopQz CKcpBVOdUpl6MnhECHVInwGuX9yvZUSir01fQNEkxdgWNO4VxBDkrCoU86XuayMzlQbF LT5AcKZvjGab96EHG3Dew19Tgr5Ufa9Mx7n4UFBMPI6gNI82kDaHS+jHnc1CbHVHYn1X vKjg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=dvyoOKVnv6cN8dNA1clPPskVEwL9dRtp9xhmRqVK9+g=; b=JVsQtMn+Qnb3YwNZk/aQqVfXa5FBrwW6ZaC5DFq1aCDbLIgVaLsbnPKxFxQ56Jzeqc ep1m+/aqvYtrN3iEg/r5UQjUu6B82ef5eoGSmfFMWniF9vnlAOsciFks74zMjqxtjvJh Xr9kWNHRhNKi6q1XS12O6FZvKzlnlxPtzKXhF/hA8ZuJ2JGiqUhKTkZcnVCbVFfNfDgU yvwkcIZy3WDv0ZKysyj/kAw4FOgkj+MNVD5aeByPK/6gAExB5yC1q0jNh6NJNSpvP4DJ HrC1sEORyrhgEI746pmYDfXkOBDZUMwQFYSFZ0G10zxEwwOEC8ukTnlLgz2yAIUjS9S0 ymmA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJERi5wovNiACfGikbuh7zMH/C46yIsmfK4ViMLlL2pNfZX6UJdDRhLmOEa4EWWKQ== X-Received: by 10.25.170.134 with SMTP id t128mr8363213lfe.133.1466559962082; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bass.home.chromatix.fi (37-33-96-207.bb.dnainternet.fi. [37.33.96.207]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h10sm5946208ljh.38.2016.06.21.18.46.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <583214db-2c3f-4545-9f56-168dff3879e2@eggo.org> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:04:49 +0300 Cc: Dave Taht , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <583214db-2c3f-4545-9f56-168dff3879e2@eggo.org> To: Eric Johansson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] anyone tried a wrtnode? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 01:46:03 -0000 > On 21 Jun, 2016, at 22:08, Eric Johansson wrote: >=20 > I want to focus on a task oriented interface where its notation is = built > on what we as network developers use, not what the capabilities of the > device are. I did before with IP cop, I think I can do it again for = more > complex device. If I do it right, it should be able to be a good > interface for any switch/firewall. >=20 > for too long, people have made network infrastructure device user > interfaces complicated. It's time to make them simple. I may have some ideas on that score=E2=80=A6 - Jonathan Morton