From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F1AE3B2A4 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 07:44:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from resomta-ch2-13v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.109]) by resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id t7A4mNVwMlhj7t7v2mtW92; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 12:44:04 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcastmailservice.net; s=20180828_2048; t=1638535444; bh=mpPiMZYw2NnE9KpAz533D0FWpVZntJRBXYhleasWe7s=; h=Received:Received:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OCEGSM4WDkWpyHNbyUfGoZMFHEmhJ1tSy5DKRTDZJrIyRAnrgPONTeHQN2IVlLQlj Sy2J5+kWqA68G3xZ3i9U4qFDBfWeph4/dL7BeAwUgRwdcafAyC08Obv38f6uZqb12i k/DmMKG8Aj+50LmJi7C5G8oE1z2KgnCWmC/6Rua+eqIE9LeaH8h/VpubR8dCCV1B57 AQYKAjc06dNF5Vt7pxgG6OmUvneSfHrCRRCYdWSP/P6IohWM5+OztzUx08rI5qYJoV ZWMsG9piWMOGTCplG+wFB+ho36S9Zl/RU9HjN+8yITi1+Jpq8Z85weAWZIqOaBoZsO tCe2K2Q9sFxZA== Received: from home.sewingwitch.com ([98.35.153.117]) by resomta-ch2-13v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id t7upm41w3ltsXt7v1mNqO1; Fri, 03 Dec 2021 12:44:04 +0000 X-Xfinity-VAAS: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvuddrieejgdeghecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucevohhmtggrshhtqdftvghsihdpqfgfvfdppffquffrtefokffrnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddunecunecujfgurhepfffhvffukfgjfhfogggtgfgusehtqheitdfntdejnecuhfhrohhmpefmvghnnhgvthhhucfrohhrthgvrhcuoehshhhivhgrsehsvgifihhnghifihhttghhrdgtohhmqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeejieeigeeitdffkefgjeefgfejfeejtddvieehudevleeuiedvgeduveegleetieenucffohhmrghinhepfigrvhgvfhhorhhmrdgtohhmnecukfhppeelkedrfeehrdduheefrdduudejnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehhvghlohephhhomhgvrdhsvgifihhnghifihhttghhrdgtohhmpdhinhgvthepleekrdefhedrudehfedruddujedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehshhhivhgrsehsvgifihhnghifihhttghhrdgtohhmpdhrtghpthhtohepsghlohgrtheslhhishhtshdrsghufhhfvghrsghlohgrthdrnhgvthdprhgtphhtthhopegtvghrohifrhhtqdguvghvvghlsehlihhsthhsrdgsuhhffhgvrhgslhhorghtrdhnvght X-Xfinity-VMeta: sc=0.00;st=legit Received: from [10.96.7.39] ([10.96.7.39]) (authenticated bits=0) by home.sewingwitch.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 1B3ChlML017391; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 04:43:49 -0800 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 home.sewingwitch.com 1B3ChlML017391 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sewingwitch.com; s=default; t=1638535429; bh=mpPiMZYw2NnE9KpAz533D0FWpVZntJRBXYhleasWe7s=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=nlepUBbaznCh2/qM8uxhbh/SMq4b/9T9nzj9LHzjuZqUT4bRGe/YZ3VVnVz66Vaio 6FtGnJF23d/2veyjiefpnbb9uV4VRjR8mhx/nzxhHxmfq0WJS5CLGRIjO8CsAqdLOL nptenMy4Z0pBdf4wqDA3AlkdDW4jH5449uf3vquw= Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 04:43:46 -0800 From: Kenneth Porter To: cerowrt-devel , bloat Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <371F0599-5E79-4D9A-9156-C254B29DDCDF@commscope.com> References: <83C9FEF4F6F75A417279EDF8@[192.168.1.16]> <371F0599-5E79-4D9A-9156-C254B29DDCDF@commscope.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.1.0a3 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; size=1426 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.96.0.132 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 11:35:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] tp-link request for SQM X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 12:44:05 -0000 --On Friday, December 03, 2021 12:12 PM +0000 "Wheelock, Ian"=20 wrote: > 280Mbps service with Comcast is likely the 300/10 package = offering=E2=80=A6 In > that case the US is limited to 10Mbps > > I understand there might be some issue if 280Mbps was being processed = =E2=80=93 > but in the US direction, we are not talking >>100Mbps =E2=80=93 its about > 10Mbps US, I would have thought running cake on 10Mbps US cake would not > have triggered a 50% loss in performance even on this platform. Now if > cake is applied to both inbound and outbound traffic then having to deal > with ~280Mbps might be tough. In the case of DOCSIS AQM, PIE runs in the > GW only on outbound traffic. That's indeed the package. I was seeing 270-280 down and 12 up. "Good" tests without cake: It got slammed down to 49 here: I disabled cake and it slowly recovered: (I wish the tests had a timestamp so I could be sure I'm ordering them=20 correctly.)