From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
Cc: cerowrt-devel <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:25:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <A76B3051-B521-4FAB-B81C-66835D053FE5@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1506231436440.9487@uplift.swm.pp.se>
Hi Mikael,
On Jun 23, 2015, at 14:55 , Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Sebastian Moeller wrote:
>
>> Most likely not. Check http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/sqm . Rich published a great set of instructions for setting up sqm-scripts under openwrt proper.
>
> I tried it on Linksys WRT1200AC with OpenWrt CC RC2. I configured sqm to have 800 megabit/s each direction, and ran iperf3 over IPv4 with NAT44 from Linux box behind WRT1200AC to an OSX macbook connected on a switch on the same L2 subnet as the WAN port.
>
> Linux <->WRT1200AC<->switch<->OSX
Thanks a lot, interesting data! Was this test stressing both directions at the same time? (My guess is if the test was UDP i don’t know, for a TCP test I am quite confident that it was uni-directional as the @full MTU data does not show enough loss to accommodate the roughly 2% reverse ACK traffic for the opposite direction).
>
> I get 765 megabit/s of throughput using single session, at sirq load of around 25%. If I lower the mss to 300 (to generate higher pps) I get around 560 megabit/s of throughput at 50% sirq. With 10 parallel TCP sessions, I get about the same. At MSS of 200 bytes, I get 400 megabit/s at 70% sirq.
I assume iperf3 uses TCP or UDP streams and reports the payload rate, correct? Then we have a MSS of 1460 (with 20 bytes IPv4 header and 20 bytes for TCP or UDP).
@full MTU
MSS:
1500 - 20 - 20 = 1460 byte
Number of packets at 765 Mbps goodput:
(765 * 1000^2) / ((1500 - 20 - 20) * 8) = 65496.5753425 = 65K
On-the-wire packet size (OTWPS) assuming ethernet with FCS and no VLAN tag)s):
1500 + 14 + 4 = 1518 bytes
MSS to OTWPS ratio:
(1500 - 20 - 20) / (1500 + 14 + 4) = 0.961791831357
raw bandwidth consumed by 765 Mbps good put:
765 / ((1500 - 20 - 20) / (1500 + 14 + 4)) = ((765 * 1000^2) / ((1500 - 20 - 20) * 8)) * ((1500 + 14 + 4) * 8) = 795.390410959 Mbps
So basically (1 - (795.390410959/800))*100 = 0.58 % unexplained loss, not bad
@MSS 300
MSS:
300 byte
Number of packets at 560 Mbps goodput:
(560 * 1000^2) / ((300) * 8) = 233333.333333 = 233K
On-the-wire packet size (OTWPS) assuming ethernet with FCS:
300 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4 = 358 bytes
MSS to OTWPS ratio:
(300) / (300 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4) = 0.837988826816
raw bandwidth consumed by 560 Mbps good put:
560 / ((300) / (300 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4 )) = ((560 * 1000^2) / ((300) * 8)) * ((300 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4 ) * 8) = 668.266666667 Mbps
So basically (1 - (668.266666667/800))*100 = 16.4666666666 % unexplained loss, not pretty but bearable I guess
@MSS 200
MSS:
200 byte
Number of packets at 400 Mbps goodput:
(400 * 1000^2) / ((200) * 8) = 250000 = 250K
On-the-wire packet size (OTWPS) assuming ethernet with FCS:
200 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4 = 258 bytes
MSS to OTWPS ratio:
(200) / (200 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4) = 0.77519379845
raw bandwidth consumed by 400 Mbps good put:
400 / ((200) / (200 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4 )) = ((400 * 1000^2) / ((200) * 8)) * ((200 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4 ) * 8) = 516 Mbps
So basically (1 - (516/800))*100 = 35.5 % unexplained loss, that is sad. But the packet rate is still at 250K, I winder how this router does with 64 byte ethernet frames
>
> If I turn off SQM completely, I get 600 megabit/s at 200 byte MSS single session at 80% sirq and 930 megabit/s at 26% sirq with default MSS.
Since no shaper was used, I think we need to include the inter-frame-gap and preamble to calculate the maximal payload rates for different packet sizes.
@1Gbps
MSS
(1500 - 20 - 20) = 1460 byte
Number of packets at 930 Mbps goodput:
(930 * 1000^2) / ((1500 - 20 - 20) * 8) = 79623.2876712 = 80K
To asses the maximum achievable at 1 GBE we need to take IFG and preamble into account I think
On-the-wire packet size (OTWPS) assuming ethernet with FCS plus inter frame gap and preamble:
1500 + 14 + 4 + 12 + 8 = 1538 bytes
MSS to OTWPS ratio:
(1500 - 20 - 20) / (1500 + 14 + 4 + 12 + 8) = 0.949284785436
raw bandwidth consumed by 930 Mbps good put:
930 / ((1500 - 20 - 20) / (1500 + 14 + 4 + 12 + 8)) = ((930 * 1000^2) / ((1500 - 20 - 20) * 8)) * ((1500 + 14 + 4 + 12 + 8) * 8) = 979.684931507 Mbps
So basically (1 - (979.684931507/1000))*100 = 2.0315068493 % unexplained loss, not bad.
@1Gbps
MSS
200 = 1460 byte
Number of packets at 600 Mbps goodput:
(600 * 1000^2) / ((200) * 8) = 375000 = 375K
On-the-wire packet size (OTWPS) assuming ethernet with FCS plus inter frame gap and preamble:
200 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4 + 12 + 8 = 278 bytes
MSS to OTWPS ratio:
200 / (200 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4 + 12 + 8) = 0.719424460432
raw bandwidth consumed by 600 Mbps good put:
600 / ((200) / (200 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4 + 12 + 8)) = ((600 * 1000^2) / ((200) * 8)) * ((200 + 20 + 20 + 14 + 4 + 12 + 8) * 8) = 834 Mbps
So basically (1 - (834/1000))*100 = 16.6 % unexplained loss, not bad.
As Dave said it would be nice see RRUL data from the same testbed. It would be so nice if flint had a way to send different sized TCP packets… (I guess this might be faked with MSS clamping in the router and relaying on path MTU discovery?)
>
> So if you want high performing device that is OpenWRT compatible and still does forwarding using CPU so you can test queuing algorithms, the WRT1200AC and WRT1900ACv2 is the best I have been able to find currently (unless you go for x86 platform).
The 1200AC retailed for around 200EUR in Germany the 1900ACv2 will be closer to 300EUR I guess, not too expensive but certainly above my impulse buy limit ;)
tack så mycket & Best Regards
Sebastian
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2015-06-19 14:44 [Cerowrt-devel] Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't Alan Jenkins
2015-06-19 16:41 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-19 17:35 ` Alan Jenkins
2015-06-19 20:12 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-19 20:40 ` Alan Jenkins
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2015-06-19 21:52 ` Luis E. Garcia
2015-06-19 23:32 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-20 5:52 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-23 2:41 ` Jim Reisert AD1C
2015-06-23 7:20 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-23 12:55 ` [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't) Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-23 14:09 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-23 17:25 ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2015-06-23 18:15 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-24 5:21 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-24 5:19 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-24 11:31 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
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2015-06-25 1:53 ` Aaron Wood
2015-06-25 3:07 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25 3:32 ` Aaron Wood
2015-06-25 9:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25 10:26 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-25 20:13 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-25 20:16 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-25 20:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-06-25 22:14 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 6:58 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 7:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 9:46 ` Sebastian Moeller
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2015-06-26 14:17 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-26 14:49 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-26 16:18 ` Jonathan Morton
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2015-06-26 16:35 ` Jonathan Morton
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2015-06-26 19:11 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
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2015-06-27 18:23 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
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2015-06-28 21:23 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 4:58 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 5:11 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 7:46 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 7:54 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 7:56 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:10 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:17 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 8:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 7:44 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:09 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 8:34 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 8:42 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 9:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 10:09 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-06-29 13:00 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 13:34 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 13:46 ` dpreed
2015-06-29 16:45 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-06-30 13:58 ` [Cerowrt-devel] Build instructions for regular OpenWRT with Ceropackages Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30 16:20 ` dpreed
2015-06-30 19:58 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-01 8:23 ` David Lang
2015-07-01 10:32 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-01 11:55 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-07-01 15:37 ` dpreed
2015-06-29 13:42 ` [Cerowrt-devel] performance numbers from WRT1200AC (Re: Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't) Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 16:44 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-29 18:24 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-06-29 22:15 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 22:49 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30 8:00 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-30 9:40 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:33 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:39 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-02 15:43 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-02 15:47 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-02 16:06 ` dpreed
2015-07-02 19:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-07-07 1:07 ` David Lang
2015-07-02 16:09 ` Rich Brown
2015-07-02 16:12 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-07-03 11:38 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-29 6:12 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-28 18:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
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2015-06-26 16:43 ` Dave Taht
2015-06-26 17:01 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-06-23 14:35 ` [Cerowrt-devel] Latest build test - new sqm-scripts seem to work; "cake overhead 40" didn't Jim Reisert AD1C
2015-06-23 14:40 ` Dave Taht
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