From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C0A321F0FA for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 08:17:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from u-089-d091.biologie.uni-tuebingen.de ([134.2.89.91]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LcSAg-1VCs2M3Nl0-00jpqy for ; Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:17:00 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: <52B1A48A.1020007@imap.cc> Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 17:17:00 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <52B1A48A.1020007@imap.cc> To: Fred Stratton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:fvNtPcjnqds+k2VnYliWnKpTzjEUtdYQM74Idx3sGg8u8WdU03Z TTbucQBAizG26kfE6dmLGTQLbw1bW1bDJbZ3g0+pGSBAbCm3OIwphPu8y3uOpEujZAuxwDp DLHILZQ7npxjzU+D/fu/AMclEEvTeSLjWbi9ZewynAsygyv4Lf5X2LIaazUe55uQRm41LSc DuRI03k5Gi2XKEsqnOjyg== Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Intuition of this guy improved his 1, 5 Mbit DSL line X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 16:17:03 -0000 Hi Fred, On Dec 18, 2013, at 14:35 , Fred Stratton wrote: > I used TomatoUSB -the shibby builds, rather than the Toastman ones- = for several years prior to moving to OpenWRT and then ceroWRT. >=20 > The TomatoUSB community has repeatedly shouted down any attempts to = discuss Getty's original findings, so it has been up to individuals to = find QoS solutions. >=20 > Shibby has the best QoS implementation. >=20 > http://tomato.groov.pl >=20 > I did not get very far. It was not possible to watch flash video and = download simultaneously on a 4 megabit/s ADSL2+ line. I am not too amazed, neither the toast man nor shibby forks of = tomato seem to handle the ATM link layer properly, at 4Mbit/s down and = less up this omission is going to be noticeable no matter how god their = AQM/QOS system might be otherwise. Looking today it looks like only = Gargoyle actually handles that properly (well almost, they turn on stab = unconditionally when PPPoE is used, but that test has some false = positives=85) >=20 > The problem has been largely solved with the last 3 builds of CeroWRT. Yeah, Dave (and the rest of course) really developed a fine = solution to the home router problem! Best Regards Sebastian >=20 >=20 > On 18/12/13 11:23, Maciej Soltysiak wrote: >> Hi, >>=20 >> Story from slashodot: >> A guy moved to a low speed DSL connection. When describing what he's >> done to make it work better, among other things, he mentioned he >> configured QoS to be below his cap. He put 1100 Mb limit on a 1500 Mb >> line. >>=20 >> He's not using the benefits of fq_codel on his TomatoUSB but he's on >> the right track. >>=20 >> His intuition is good: >> = http://www.tidbitsfortechs.com/2013/12/surviving-internet-on-low-speed-dsl= / >>=20 >> Would be cool for him to check out latest openwrt if his device can = handle it. >>=20 >> Best regards, >> Maciej >> _______________________________________________ >> Cerowrt-devel mailing list >> Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel