From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ed1-x52d.google.com (mail-ed1-x52d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1EA93B29E; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 14:50:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ed1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id c24so31008800edy.4; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:50:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GsjzacHODaeIoGAXJsgS9ggspkVnQnDzwi7+r9pHa0E=; b=Fx0VOGowlocFBzqmJsDqUyh03Uxaum2xX1FVxIlE3S7TmYfxDJyxFCDgKpshgHBTvf d2HpjyQm6q/x4j4q6q6OwFT84DgA9aXx+3CB8glJJ6yx+gokKNjEiNXpsEbse8rHZjlH efHiouXwUICESBc/sp8MRdSQQ9z83kt/MKrPnzCBqOTCWbwIkn+yyN2iBtrBPLh8UtAa zcrJcuCUL8bZREH/tWT2+LMmxAcGBm0Ws5pQwN7VC66Px0fLkVQyJOBy0F19Nfp5RyVV QlxhQ9ssO/kQeln9v5OVbS4D3GdYIIYbjhet/zzUvlo8DzMINvqKIBIiQ/abEbE20qFV 78uw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GsjzacHODaeIoGAXJsgS9ggspkVnQnDzwi7+r9pHa0E=; b=LivckBt8o6px9nfcCcWr9aU/lyUC+24SsYvaogAAaYUnq7Khdt/arlVB9tP+UmMPvQ CdpHcyeT8TGa34S1ahVKtOR3a5CyjH4KQ8tFSd0uU9zXAGGiS/dxvEJ9XkS25GYJR7wM ArPthOlwZkDJ+bnIwGg00r6MmadQ4aUkGySn9XpR0goUrMYV1QfNoO5h6O0Pe4GYnN5l ny3Gwd8Ggpp1PRAQjf0qd7lOZWlXVfeYJPyhdSHzOknJhvw8pplOeXFZBbXFgfxHKR4d UnrwRmGTs+7MwhvrlMIbQgDzPcQ+GtEnIYljcPWgy5DW5Y9qDkH5o2Y8llIJG8RPHvbS 97nw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532vvOcdNXalhaVPK1TkAuEVQvDNM+0XFfBm1KzakvvoAADlV1HR YJLbQcwsmb1WuP4koRergjiJMkYpV1TMW0xcsmA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy/0BnTrb34TyUFBvHwcJ+kPDYe3HqwLMql4vxsbrqkS0uXbw3AY0rgj2aYkubvjy/P+wEboMBhs+BjB0NvSuc= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:fcc6:: with SMTP id qx6mr78461ejb.183.1642708255765; Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:50:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6EB1B7F0-A906-4254-8DD7-8EAE47DB7490@cable.comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <6EB1B7F0-A906-4254-8DD7-8EAE47DB7490@cable.comcast.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 11:50:44 -0800 Message-ID: To: "Livingood, Jason" Cc: bloat , cerowrt-devel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] ntia broadband RFC X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 19:50:57 -0000 I intend to use the illustrative cartoon here at some point, if I get on th= is. https://blog.discourse.org/2022/01/discourse-gives-back-2021 On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 7:11 AM Livingood, Jason wrote: > > In my personal opinion, these agencies are usually quite happy to have co= mments from technical experts. If any of you do make comments, making them = concise and not too complex will tend to ensure they are widely read and in= ternalized. ;-) > > In the details, I could certainly see folks in this community being able = to credibly comment on question 13 [1] given its mention of latency and qua= lity. > > Jason > > [1] "What guidance or requirements, if any, should NTIA consider with res= pect to network > reliability and availability, cybersecurity, resiliency, latency, or othe= r service quality features and > metrics? What criteria should NTIA establish to assess grant recipients= =E2=80=99 plans to ensure that service providers maintain and/or exceed thr= esholds for reliability, quality of service, sustainability, upgradability = and other required service characteristics?" > > =EF=BB=BFOn 1/18/22, 16:19, "Bloat on behalf of Dave Taht" wrote: > > This is the first time in years that I felt that maybe something we > said could get through to an agency of the US government. The deadlin= e > for filing is feb 4th, > and it would be nice if some of the billions on the table got spent o= n > better routers, software, and networks. > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://ntia.gov/files/ntia/publications/= fr-iija-broadband-rfc.pdf__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkm= tpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUlLAE9NwQ$ > > In their RFC there are 36 questions, some of which are pretty good. > > I've been participating a bit in this forum: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://discuss.broadband.money/c/broadba= nd-grant-events/scott-woods-ama__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXli= sfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUlnwITAjA$ > among other things I dragged out last week was the "upgrade in place" > idea. There's 3 weeks or so to come up with > something worth filing, but as usual these days I'm always looking fo= r > collaborators? > > > > -- > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dht= tps*3A*2F*2Fwww.icei.org__;JSUl!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfh= HkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG6nZnLUnbOe7hAA$ > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Bloat mailing list > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bl= oat__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TEn3rSNYwOHZ6E_RnvIDoIT2cXlisfhHkmtpnbIfCiAk63Rac2aqOnzG= 6nZnLUnPllTvyw$ > --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC