Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project
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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Christopher Robin <pheoni@gmail.com>
Cc: Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org>, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] spacebee
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 11:25:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw44qzNDGZX9NHYuhawXnUARxEj2FQO8NgitOs+oJGL5TA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPjrEw87LruVGpnohFHP9RNUP_Pu8aiKyUzVJdX23r3+2ERtZg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Christopher Robin <pheoni@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 1:03 PM Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 2) Although the FCC denied the application based on having inadaquate
>>> radar reflectivity, according to their standards, the article states:
>>>
>>> "Websites dedicated to tracking operational satellites show the
>>> SpaceBees in orbits virtually identical to those specified in Swarm’s
>>> application." Ground stations can only get better.
>
>
> Note that the objections are based on a non-operating SpaceBee. I’m not
> seeing anything about one of the SpaceBees going dark for testing or not
> responding due to malfunction. So the ground stations are prob getting both
> GPS data from the sat and a fix on the radio signal to determine position.
> If both of those methods of tracking disappear, there appears to be a
> limited number of ground stations that could provide an accurate enough
> location to allow for other orbitals to made an avoidance maneuver.
>
> With all the noise around this launch, I haven’t been able to find info on
> expected operational lifespan vs expected orbit decay. LEO’s can still last
> for decades. The only thing I’m finding is an expected use for 6mo to 2yr,
> but not sure how long after that the Spaceebee will stay in orbit and/or be
> responsive with positional data.

The arkyd-3 was supposed to be in a 25 yr orbit with a 5 year
operational lifetime... which may outlast the company at this point.

So I'd assume this orbit (and corporate and projected lifetime) is similar.

> While just 4 of these things in space isn’t a major concern, rogue launching
> objects into space isn’t a scalable solution. This is especially true as the
> cost of launching comes down into the “cheap” startup range. These types of
> companies aren’t usually concerned 25yr impact plans, and most wont last
> long enough to be around to assist if any problems occur past that 2-3yr
> window.
>
> We have rules for the road, the sea, and the sky. Space needs similar
> protections. No, the FCC shouldn’t be that gatekeeper, but that’s where we
> are at until an agency is stood up with authority to handle these kinds of
> issues.

+1.


-- 

Dave Täht
CEO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-669-226-2619

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-13 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-12  4:13 Dave Taht
2018-03-12 16:25 ` dpreed
2018-03-13 18:31   ` Dave Taht
2018-03-12 16:26 ` Jim Gettys
2018-03-12 17:18   ` dpreed
2018-03-12 17:34     ` Christopher Robin
2018-03-12 19:10       ` dpreed
2018-03-12 20:29         ` Christopher Robin
2018-03-13 16:12           ` Jim Gettys
2018-03-13 16:52             ` Dave Taht
2018-03-13 17:03               ` Jim Gettys
2018-03-13 17:31                 ` Dave Taht
2018-03-14  1:49                   ` Jonathan Morton
2018-03-13 17:47                 ` Christopher Robin
2018-03-13 18:25                   ` Dave Taht [this message]
2018-03-14  4:16                   ` Matt Taggart
2018-03-13 17:49               ` valdis.kletnieks
2018-03-13 18:06                 ` Dave Taht
2018-03-14  4:08                   ` Matt Taggart
2018-03-15 20:22               ` Ray Ramadorai

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