From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x233.google.com (mail-oi0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 050BD3B2A3 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi0-x233.google.com with SMTP id d205so146231194oia.0 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:48:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=8m6xJL272lDAz/5Ese9TY1D2WW43KeyxDViRMY/o1Uo=; b=Rp0zlyyW2TtowGiOwO+7nrmUaXkHl/Ey0iZTeVL2m6RQR9GcQsrVZn5K6cJE9YaF+V VWjpQyfjM+NixbciLJbySZ9waklj87Gp4sfFSHAjYbWn1YTlEbaPUb1chmkXeXpTlPs0 GGMk+1WeS53s2KSvWvTnuwjmNt+AFjiRUadSuwDU2v04DhMLgDKu9Lf60UnnUxcQGxQb t7U2f8EwBPrt/+UBnLko6WwTJ9O812QOkpeVa/uIYhH3IMdqbJpkBUF1A3pBMcdNLYgr kiWHyO4gj4vJI0qd7JBGOlBXp9SK14VwpVFAb2CtNguib5xildX9x/EsmBH1DZaLusQo 9eEQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=8m6xJL272lDAz/5Ese9TY1D2WW43KeyxDViRMY/o1Uo=; b=PSbRoFFi7gml8Su0uJDdBrrXgxIceeYHEJJONowDC7F+J0gSgKWxSZhyYLnl8uYolt fuTaIvDbdeJN6RKvylg4iXC9/E3L84vEg1cSk63MaNdUw5xPhe8EOBLYDN6reP86me++ pnAT4KxPvOucFx4qP1KNB80fQRB5KLcoKNKJdmM3yCnjYZ/7QaliuRyu+0i/g+CEwN4i NAvl1OeyYiJt/45OvaA/K1/OqPPSiarGJFCrYIl01mhrVjOkfcYUquqi8wZSBsr9gxC2 7MHYvnFENuNu12BeTm7oZEfrz4dQ4j4/hr5LyvkCXruFdjqLrkV7sW/5TM+Nqa8zAVbB TnmA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJKnJ5y9JLXv0Ll3Bp/D/OSfhjy0IqDYQk4CABxQEt54Hd5ymzUU999G8J/uRmh3n4dRwU4h4OQ3eHxM4g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.178.135 with SMTP id b129mr9898080oif.139.1459097308312; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.168.129 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:48:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <56C0C6E3.6000700@taht.net> <9325CC61-3295-4EE1-984C-8C23BB6FE80A@gmail.com> <1455552663.843710221@apps.rackspace.com> <56C21B28.6000507@taht.net> Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 09:48:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Valent Turkovic Cc: Outback Dingo , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] nuc stuff X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 16:48:29 -0000 The problem I had had with this nuc is that it can't drive any of my 3 HDMI monitors properly. Still have that problem... and darn it, all I need the thing to do is install *something*... and then I'll never use the screen again. On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 6:01 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > If you are looking for absolutely most powerful device but in smaller form > factor than NUC then check out PC Engines APU.1D, this amazing board is x86 > so it blows all other non-x86 devices away... In general I am looking for a range of devices from low end to high. This box does not count as "high" (10GigE), but it looks equivalent to the turris omnia in most respects. I like that it is x86 (for dev purposes). > it should be similar or more > powerful that Mikrotik CCR Cloud Routers. > > Software wise it can run FreeBSD, OpenWrt or Mikrotik OS. > > [1] > http://www.pluscom.pl/en/pc-engines-apu-1d-3xgigabit-lan-2gb-ram-t40e-cpu-board-p2412.html > - http://www.pcengines.ch/apu1d.htm > [2] https://schemen.me/routeros-on-apu/ > - https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/pcengines/apu > - https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=316913 When I had last looked at this board there was no openwrt support, and no BQL support for the onboard ethernet. My experience with running bigger OSes on x86 off of a USB stick has been dismal (all praise openwrt for nearly never writing to flash) It looks like all that has improved in the past year or so. It runs coreboot, which makes me happy, and having two easy to access mini-pci slots would be helpful right now. I ordered one. Elsewhere I'd had a mostly dismal experience with current hackerboards (c1,c2,rpi3), ipv6, and wifi usb sticks. The nice thing about that is I just filed bugs on all of those issues and perhaps someone else will fix 'em. https://github.com/hardkernel/linux/issues/177 - fixed upstream already https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1370 - ignored https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/1371 - pretty nasty kernel bug in the rpi3's ipv6 stack (I think it's the ethernet driver, the rpi2 does not have this problem) ... I have a bunch of usb wifi sticks that all didn't work right for various reasons. So moving to a mini-pcie set of boxes will help. > > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel >