From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x22d.google.com (mail-oi0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B31921F2B3 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i138so4035332oig.32 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:03:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zlfGFvjy+8jdha00Vlh4rRK+1alW5vdpXY671ARJeZU=; b=wwF6e8iHck7kRVk8dosHDj5EGZOBvaeiRyBRPiv7bFL3qI+uwaEApnWDuSw+Cd7Vwm 8caqcjsEtETRIY8wmVghykfIK1cKhWZG19soDlq61eQHCEvNXZYcaFoXKZ6hBSEhsIe8 LfeUoNYyjqLLJhVZTdzYRQhiBbrgtDdTHAOnXZOsw6F2cbiz+X/rM772nmFA6bYiVnF9 v/Q/Ea74QDCteb1UQXbXw2qdM564GSga4tzd/YhLCsSy+UfsvYvf6+Q0Ggj5KJVswLTp OgqXW+Wn6SeSuFaQMKYRl876XwCPxq9EgnpEAGsRFKGQh+QnupP9G0OCgTEKwJRvB0+o 6gUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.241.133 with SMTP id wi5mr24455685obc.10.1413824635488; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.227.211 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:03:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <121767.1413574248@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <121767.1413574248@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:03:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Valdis Kletnieks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] SQM in mainline openwrt, fq_codel considered for fedora default X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 17:04:25 -0000 See: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=3De6c253e363dee77ef7= e5c5f44c4ca55cded3fd47 There is a scene in Monty Python's "Life of Brian" that comes to mind. A bunch of revolutionaries are discussing various forms of paper protest, and world domination, and Judith shows up full of the news that Brian is being crucified that day... "Reg, for God's sake, it's perfectly simple. All you've got to do is to go out of that door now, and try to stop the Romans' nailing him up! It's happening, Reg! Something's actually happening, Reg! Can't you understand?" Frustrated she leaves the room, and the group takes up a new motion according to parlamentary rules... (for the full scene, see: http://www.montypython.net/brianmm3.php ) That's what the last couple years of endless talks and ietf meetings have felt like.... All that said, doubtless we'll have various snags and difficulties on the way to more full deployment, various new techniques will appear and evolve, and /me goes back to bed whistling "always look on the bright side of life" On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:30 PM, wrote: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:56:01 -0700, Dave Taht said: > >> fedora and systemd are considering a change in their distro's default >> of pfifo_fast to fq_codel: >> >> http://osdir.com/ml/general/2014-10/msg34011.html > > systemd is a distro now? Damn, talk about mission creep.. :) --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht thttp://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Upcoming_Talks