From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A02621F0FF for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 18:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id hq4so2519707wib.10 for ; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:18:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8TjHwFWubZvXoiJT6exk1yZE5/LY2C12wmATCyB/XCc=; b=jQbfRnRZ595mQx0xvcJyrttuSjvXtitaDyEWReTM99Isi7QulfVrB/TEkojpEyZH1W q13Hs+sRUgmXMSnzjNBeIgDP11mDh5XDxcHcYX1xsp2/i1HvVssXcbhUT0E6z1akJbsn nxWD9nXmvxj2cs1s5WbGdWb7+zc/8M12VcSUppZgHFg6oWRLd6UxlwHEIb19dO3qKM0I /MdvLjXmAclXeZ3Q9ZGLLy6a6e47BxYfKyqqy4N2CauutJO+FOpfEohVMJmqFsz6XjgE dkagpSNMBi0uBcYrnLmTSXLoEEmU3G0MlnYqAKs7crDBzSVvGeV549K5Tz4CbZqkRPGj cluw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.87.34 with SMTP id u2mr8727997wiz.4.1349313493896; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 18:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.89.136 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 18:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 18:18:13 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Stephen Walker Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] Next release plan (sugarland-2) X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 01:18:16 -0000 I like codenames, and cerowrt-sugarland thus far has been lucky, so... This time around I plan to focus on the 3 packages everybody seems to want, and keep hacking at qos-scripts and simple_qos. minissdpd is done (in ceropackages) fixing upnpd looks easy, haven't looked at minidlna yet. Fiddling with qos effectively however requires I get some netem boxes up to simulate long RTTs. While I have got the vyatta boxes to do so, they are short on documentation, and I haven't even got a console prompt out of them yet. Might acquire more/different boxes. Might get the time and bum the hw to slam a video card into them to get them updated. Don't know yet. It would be nice to have a set of stable netperf servers around the globe to use also, with well characterized behaviors. I have a ton of data from the first field deployment attempt http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Yurtlab/ - but unless I have to give a talk about it I think that crunching it down can wait until after we get 3.6 based versions of everything and a repeat/refinement of the tests. The core things derived from that experiment (memory use issues, a need for mfq_codel, early experiments with driver buffering) are things we're fixing anyway. Is anyone going to: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/Summits/Barcelona-2012 ? I applied for travel help with LF, didn't get any, may cancel the trip. I am deeply grateful for the outpouring of donations and subscription support - but so far 62% of the people that tried to donated/subscribe last time haven't got the news of their "refund/please retry". I'm still very encouraged. Certainly enough to be able to commit time, look at our problems, and make a budget for cerowrt/bufferbloat.net efforts for after my personal cashflow problem stops being so dire. Try to come up with ways to expand it. Etc. I wish I didn't have to stay even partially focused on the funding problems, but I am going to stay on it until I'm sure we can meet some reasonable goals on a regular basis. I'm mostly happy to announce today that a certain very big ISP has asked me to take a hard look at their network and see what can be done. That contract should get me back to where I can eat regular by the end of the year, and that contract does not conflict with the cerowrt effort, except that I'll have less time for all this overall, and phases where I'll have no time for it. More news on what will happen there later. So I hope to expand and parallelize the bufferbloat battle across more people, and find ways to automate some things that will keep incremental progress rolling along regular. Discussed adding cerowrt to the openwrt buildbot system yesterday, as one example. ... In late november, I hope to restart the campground field test and add a new bloatlab on the east coast. This month, I MAY "ping-pong" the release of the ubnt stuff I'm using at the yurtlab as prep for sugarland-2, and I HOPE to get that ubnt stuff done by oct 13th, as it's not gated on the same stuff cerowrt is. Between now and mid-october: I would like to set aside a half day towards getting those interested in building cerowrt/openwrt up and running. That's more than can possibly be done this month. By me, anyway. Anybody else up to anything interesting? I just learned that planetlab has linux 3.5 under test for a move to std linux containerization. https://www.planet-lab.org/node/263 Perhaps at last we can get some servers up for worldwide testing! PS I have stuck a codel, fq_codel, ns2_codel, efq_codel enabled x86_64 Linux-3.6 kernel here: http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/deb/ --=20 Dave T=E4ht Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.= html