From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x633.google.com (mail-ej1-x633.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::633]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13BD43B29D for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2021 22:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ej1-x633.google.com with SMTP id c10so24681757ejx.9 for ; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 19:42:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xBCYuhHERpU4Sq0Bcah6g5nZGetPIDC0VwBPG6Lay0U=; b=nU2LBy2H0prLzwYHu4tL6OvJ2h/TK3mXfr7/E8AXp5omLaJaXw6p6YtLsMKSUXoSeA HFcLUgI1u8k+dktYp9813Osy4KP7TF4oqJjDQwxKXyk4ciTzvZW9SwKz6Ze9+qZn5BRj kdRKa1d9kCUjBCQxEiPze86N9pQWAC8q3BtckcvMC3cpFwTtPEDK86HSBu2nvZ1e6v90 EcK3vPHEIJNzAw06Ud0LGz/UhWu0n+zt77j6wfEQj3MoLdSyzjhN494J4Ndn5b6Y2q0U RKNkoLSF+x3RVg1P1WFLH70l6ttUN/gvGIn011fQc2MQ0oBGg/tD71dwyUQsRqZZ0NrY T1rA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xBCYuhHERpU4Sq0Bcah6g5nZGetPIDC0VwBPG6Lay0U=; b=r4jIWaSkLieVa3b8URLrllb+9ILh0THBjNAH1acp1UOuP97LFxZhqPDTfLDpLuZ52N 1+rE48cniyPzxfpP/f/AZuMAkHwQUVuKKthX5NbB5f5ULSRW244GEkIzGKjVEWmy8jOh cHnp4AZpYRxQS4Ud6N1cYvhLCajIjT4D/c9ti7xZiRsKRFjA7Vr+nXDV4g8cb7JuNyeo xZ8CJP69HE9zEu1ETA3cVa/9RsxCS4PVoc1j2Z3/YiLGrqqWoul7xKZIaoL4TM7Rd82V BHNFyI0wtGrLjwixvbY4VQ15DuYPekKuvZwGU1c9uYmqDhWi+8FRcjo1dH6uFACOBDN1 sMrw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532lpTs1cV6E31qK9hh8scyiznw0efb16aO6BlpJmXsjzNWNv/sH +ZWMusXLP4ZrhkYQ/+7IX6dC2sxVgbXPwZ9ZW4QgfGHYurZm5g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx3mgu2ZhD3fsYiVQU0UIuU7QKOxFeSXihztrKMpQgktbjRtzRONZw73ByT/OFzCcKdO12zlynhp1AFXYHo8uE= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:8401:: with SMTP id n1mr18163811ejx.225.1615261355923; Mon, 08 Mar 2021 19:42:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 19:42:24 -0800 Message-ID: To: cerowrt-devel Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] mips goes risc-v X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2021 03:42:37 -0000 https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/21/03/08/2117238/mips-technologies-join= s-risc-v-moves-to-open-source-isa-standard To me my biggest kvetch about the risc-v effort was the lack of additional on-chip IP support, which, lacking compatible busses and so on, was going to limit multiple generations of chips to just what could be developed afresh. Even "simple" IP blocks like usb support take time. While I really like "chisel" as a design language, it is far behind what arm and intel use. But: With the mips licensees scrambling to reuse their IP, somehow, and move to risc-v, I think this architecture has an ever increasing chance of success. It's been a really good couple of months for open source this or that. I keep hoping someone will seriously fund https://github.com/open-sdr/openwifi as well, for, in order to handle the complexities of 802.11n and beyond, a co-processor with some serious oomph, and a well designed piece of open firmware, is needed. --=20 "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman dave@taht.net CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729