Re: [Cerowrt-devel] So how far behind is the embedded router world, still?

[Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 9:48 AM dpreed@deepplum.com <dpreed@deepplum.com> wrote:
>
> How would one get Linux Foundation to raise money to sponsor a router software initiative?

We tried. Personally, having bled out mentally and financially more
than once, I am not up to trying again. They don't return our calls
anymore.

> I can see that all the current network product OEMs might mass up to kill it or make it fail. Kind of like coreboot vs. UEFI.
>
> But maybe Facebook or Amazon or Google - dedicated white-box fan companies - might do it. Or maybe there's a Chinese funding source.

Well, try to sort through
https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesnycouncil/2018/07/26/why-you-should-start-looking-at-googles-flutter-and-fuchsia-now/#795943a6a309

As for china, sure, that would be great. Europe, sure. I think china
has a huge incentive to get into making better firmware in
collaboration with europe. As for america...


> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Jonathan Morton" <chromatix99@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 10:13am
> To: "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike@swm.pp.se>
> Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] So how fHow wouar behind is the embedded router world, still?
>
> > On 26 Jul, 2018, at 11:53 am, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
> >
> > they seem to live in a world where you take a linux kernel that's announced as LTS (in the best of worlds), work on that for 1-2 years during which you release an SDK, which then the device manufacturers will take and start putting their solutions on, which takes another 1-2 years before it reaches customers.
>
> This in itself sounds like a colossal waste of developer man-hours.  Which really just serves to underline how clueless CPE vendors are - about their core business, no less.
>
> They obviously have a lot more resources than we do.  What could *we* do with that level of funding and organisation?  Take six months, and put out a router that *doesn't* suck for a change!
>
>  - Jonathan Morton
>
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