From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x62c.google.com (mail-ej1-x62c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66CC73B2A4; Wed, 6 Apr 2022 17:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x62c.google.com with SMTP id p15so6942540ejc.7; Wed, 06 Apr 2022 14:42:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lfQalff4aEdXjvl/SS46P8ExY1pMbWP9l/XKSlI3DdE=; b=ZFKpAJyObmbXc+mvFOKW4v7ea1tMewpxhdVPGupZ9niYadKBHNCbtC4vqPW0r4KeIV 1NcdjXT6BpvBMLpky5cGR0A7tLqde8DNqkDoeMD8Tk5fgX6QsFdm5VAbkb81IM/gyJWK Yc0AjJHjYXX71gxhOL6NBq6axIalrPn8O5AorcoYSgTtoky3MqcCgh8kRH7bTyRWav+l 3Aii3qyALsoGlY9J7lzGIcdX2w/WM4MJcisIbeh5rIRXt+rgmdXTB83acsqBJHsHbqSB DHCpbrnF/WZzne+3cVsw1mlvF0SfOjhufFx1Zzak5d8Fe4P5GpccKNWM0g47t8OjpZEz b9Sg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lfQalff4aEdXjvl/SS46P8ExY1pMbWP9l/XKSlI3DdE=; b=E2s+W/r+L0lF8asLF+T/UzPfMJMXXgAEyASaAuvk9U1IMr9NMBTmXscb0gnlvLSP42 rJe1udpvqGLn2j96rZ824HaPgrWg98EZsgftm8r5wWrJlHeEF2u7w1l3uD+OhKvdKox8 5a0vzUKmXiAfp4qTXukmBVDxLCKHWq9FdxGl/qAL3NVrbp6I0c+xv2IoG/AOtIlB8C3C HUmNIbWu3njcbF6y7Bpu0In4Uf+k9KD6g5SbNHsU2FOJSRZKkouhhcqNY3F2NrW60i2v HkRvdr4ZPLDCAmxVsbeb0QC0sUeL60OsCHhOr98qDqhkwyx+H5586jwsRVv8cJfTbmTx H+OA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533D5kNGolEduZHVoZB8vmMhMiFOtxEUtIXlVkiroUrnQPzSz2LP QOOvd8LguPkW5j+uwunafkNYkRN7590ySh1P8ws= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyG4PEnm5IA2GaWE6BqL9KblZoufaXqPcAeaxND6290A2oGZhl/Cwxig0WZ5Fbo3Xao6jB/+M2bRu4I9jFObpI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:f8c7:b0:6e7:eecc:cf8d with SMTP id lh7-20020a170906f8c700b006e7eecccf8dmr10140351ejb.183.1649281352352; Wed, 06 Apr 2022 14:42:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2022 14:42:24 -0700 Message-ID: To: Sebastian Moeller Cc: bloat , cerowrt-devel , aesomerville@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] android, sqm-autorate and lte and videoconferencing X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2022 21:42:33 -0000 it's looking promising. in trying to get an android to do better this recent ML paper crossed my de= sk: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2007.02735.pdf On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 1:38 PM Sebastian Moeller wrote: > > Dear Dave, dear all > > please, let me introduce Andrew to this list, who is the driving force be= hind CAKE-autorate's design and implementation (which started from a more t= heoretical discussion in the OpenWrt forum before turning into something ta= ngible). There are other alternative approaches for the rate-tracking probl= em many discussed in this longish forum thread: https://forum.openwrt.org/t= /cake-w-adaptive-bandwidth/108848 (which is great as this occasionally lead= s to quite interesting discussion about how the different teams tackle comm= on issues) but Andrew's autorate appears to the fastest moving with low sof= tware requirements (every router should run bash anyway ;) ). > > Kind Regards > Sebastian > > > > On Apr 6, 2022, at 17:43, Dave Taht wrote: > > > > For the past several days, I have been very successfully using > > variants of the cake-autorate code to manage my connections on the > > boat, for which I use a tether to my laptop. > > > > https://github.com/lynxthecat/CAKE-autorate > > > > Although this test claims my link was inadequate for a good videoconfer= ence > > > > https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat?test-id=3D964831e5-30f9-4695= -bfbd-b58da0a759f3 > > > > they have all been perfect (and that test was conducted during an > > actual zoom conference). The code does not grab as much bandwidth as > > it could, when available, but I'll settle for perfect > > videoconferencing. > > > > Anyway... what I used to do was attach the phone to a router shared > > boat-wide that did this stuff, but it would be nice to move the > > algorithm directly into an android. My hope is that more modern > > androids are running a recent enough kernel(?) to have cake, but it's > > been a long time since I built anything for android, and am wondering > > if there is a lte/5g tablet or phone or dedicated lte router "out > > there" that can be hacked on? > > > > > > > > -- > > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org > > > > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > > _______________________________________________ > > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel > --=20 I tried to build a better future, a few times: https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC