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* [Cerowrt-devel] BQL on the via rhine?
@ 2014-07-17  5:08 Dave Taht
  2014-07-17  5:28 ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2014-07-17  5:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cerowrt-devel

The:

http://www.pcengines.ch/alix6f2.htm

is commonly used out there as a general purpose embedded board. the
driver for it only has 100mbit capability and has a very small tx ring
(10 packets) by default, but based on the success of the beaglebone
black BQL event,

http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/beagle_bql/bql_makes_a_difference.png

I figure it too could benefit from BQL - (and the experiences gained
written up somewhere so more people work to put bql-on-everything). I
also like it has a mini-pci slot...

I would also dearly like to find a product out there with DSL that
could be BQL'd and fq_codeled, there were a few candidates last year
(but I forget which). Is there anything new and good or old and
improvable in the DSL universe?

-- 
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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] BQL on the via rhine?
  2014-07-17  5:08 [Cerowrt-devel] BQL on the via rhine? Dave Taht
@ 2014-07-17  5:28 ` Dave Taht
  2014-07-17 13:26   ` Luke Hamburg
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2014-07-17  5:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cerowrt-devel

or, hmm:

http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm

$136 dollars qty 500, probably needs power supply, heatsink and and case...

On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> The:
>
> http://www.pcengines.ch/alix6f2.htm
>
> is commonly used out there as a general purpose embedded board. the
> driver for it only has 100mbit capability and has a very small tx ring
> (10 packets) by default, but based on the success of the beaglebone
> black BQL event,
>
> http://snapon.lab.bufferbloat.net/~d/beagle_bql/bql_makes_a_difference.png
>
> I figure it too could benefit from BQL - (and the experiences gained
> written up somewhere so more people work to put bql-on-everything). I
> also like it has a mini-pci slot...
>
> I would also dearly like to find a product out there with DSL that
> could be BQL'd and fq_codeled, there were a few candidates last year
> (but I forget which). Is there anything new and good or old and
> improvable in the DSL universe?
>
> --
> Dave Täht
>
> NSFW: https://w2.eff.org/Censorship/Internet_censorship_bills/russell_0296_indecent.article



-- 
Dave Täht

NSFW: https://w2.eff.org/Censorship/Internet_censorship_bills/russell_0296_indecent.article

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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] BQL on the via rhine?
  2014-07-17  5:28 ` Dave Taht
@ 2014-07-17 13:26   ` Luke Hamburg
  2014-07-17 16:25     ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Luke Hamburg @ 2014-07-17 13:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: cerowrt-devel

The APU boards are wonderful pieces of kit.  I've been running pfSense on them since they came out a few months ago and they've been extremely robust.  Yes they are a little costly when compared to the WNDR3800 but it's still a good value imo.

Netgate sells a DIY kit that includes an unbranded case, power supply, and heatsink for US$179. The case has cutouts for 2 antennas as well which you can connect to a miniPCI WLAN board via pigtail.  You can boot from the SD slot or mSATA and the 2GB of RAM is spacious.  They also have a 4GB variant for $20 more.

http://store.netgate.com/kit-APU1C.aspx


On Jul 17, 2014, at 1:28 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> or, hmm:
> 
> http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm
> 
> $136 dollars qty 500, probably needs power supply, heatsink and and case...
> 


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* Re: [Cerowrt-devel] BQL on the via rhine?
  2014-07-17 13:26   ` Luke Hamburg
@ 2014-07-17 16:25     ` Dave Taht
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2014-07-17 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Luke Hamburg; +Cc: cerowrt-devel

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Luke Hamburg <luke@lighthousecorp.com> wrote:
> The APU boards are wonderful pieces of kit.  I've been running pfSense on them since they came out a few months ago and they've been extremely robust.  Yes they are a little costly when compared to the WNDR3800 but it's still a good value imo.

Pfsense so far as I know has codel but not fq_codel, and people are
typically using hfsc + something to do qos. What are you using?

>
> Netgate sells a DIY kit that includes an unbranded case, power supply, and heatsink for US$179. The case has cutouts for 2 antennas as well which you can connect to a miniPCI WLAN board via pigtail.  You can boot from the SD slot or mSATA and the 2GB of RAM is spacious.  They also have a 4GB variant for $20 more.
>
> http://store.netgate.com/kit-APU1C.aspx

Thank you. The problem(s) that I'm trying to solve are multifold.

0) Have an existing stable distro that solves most edge qos problems
1) Get more hw with good support out there
2) have a device that can run htb at > 200mbit and ethernet at gbit.
3) have something simpler to work on that can take a 802.11ac card so
we can finally get to work on fixing wifi.

I've kind of given up on doing all that in one box, and the current
generation of 802.11ac APs lack oomph, and historically it's a real
pain the tukkus to ask people to continually update their main gateway
in order to make progress on beating bufferbloat. So having a stable
main gateway and working on fixing wifi in a separate box seems good.

My own inclination was towards the intel ivy bridge products as the
onboard cache is dma accessible, and thus at least theoretically
faster in a packet forwarding engine. On the other hand, my attempts
to use dual ethernet boards from various vendors have been often
frustrating.

I don't know a lot about the current generation of amd gear. I would
still prefer moving to an arm product actually...

>
> On Jul 17, 2014, at 1:28 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> or, hmm:
>>
>> http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm
>>
>> $136 dollars qty 500, probably needs power supply, heatsink and and case...
>>
>
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