From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi0-x229.google.com (mail-oi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DEB6121F350 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id a141so1288332oig.14 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:25:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FQ2y6ZYMSRWn3g9MNd5X5fVQ+UQkhfSZZrDRgfSQpNw=; b=vtGeXqEDYqoHIr1NRpewvx809+mj0hhCCdNGdiA01dg5JgtLOPHB6gGsUck+idP04e VRdI8EIADgdCXRhcxH7KJdqW1m8yIgwmGEbeh0LD76+SP0Dkjy3k9OLqnIFhCdbuiTgf uWr+jV5+H3XyQkE6sVgVO0N6ZeDIx7HffOE+bwSpWY0hDgmW4or6arpPQZgZQgkNEewF umG5ohUtnCyhEQBhKAaTTyKG2pV7uEmimS5jIZbnnCdXvQQ9+L6SXbId6z2Dzd5byzW9 07JuC2vXRL5KX9aoUeuROCMeem7+XlUZIIkRcWehUzTANJp/PD5mMDf4unGf8hosxeBQ ylAw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.96.71 with SMTP id dq7mr46501760obb.42.1405614302706; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.93.195 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:25:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <431D2ED1-8A72-496F-9C53-1115BC9E5276@lighthousecorp.com> References: <431D2ED1-8A72-496F-9C53-1115BC9E5276@lighthousecorp.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:25:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Luke Hamburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] BQL on the via rhine? X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 16:25:08 -0000 On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Luke Hamburg wro= te: > The APU boards are wonderful pieces of kit. I've been running pfSense on= them since they came out a few months ago and they've been extremely robus= t. Yes they are a little costly when compared to the WNDR3800 but it's sti= ll a good value imo. Pfsense so far as I know has codel but not fq_codel, and people are typically using hfsc + something to do qos. What are you using? > > Netgate sells a DIY kit that includes an unbranded case, power supply, an= d heatsink for US$179. The case has cutouts for 2 antennas as well which yo= u can connect to a miniPCI WLAN board via pigtail. You can boot from the S= D slot or mSATA and the 2GB of RAM is spacious. They also have a 4GB varia= nt for $20 more. > > http://store.netgate.com/kit-APU1C.aspx Thank you. The problem(s) that I'm trying to solve are multifold. 0) Have an existing stable distro that solves most edge qos problems 1) Get more hw with good support out there 2) have a device that can run htb at > 200mbit and ethernet at gbit. 3) have something simpler to work on that can take a 802.11ac card so we can finally get to work on fixing wifi. I've kind of given up on doing all that in one box, and the current generation of 802.11ac APs lack oomph, and historically it's a real pain the tukkus to ask people to continually update their main gateway in order to make progress on beating bufferbloat. So having a stable main gateway and working on fixing wifi in a separate box seems good. My own inclination was towards the intel ivy bridge products as the onboard cache is dma accessible, and thus at least theoretically faster in a packet forwarding engine. On the other hand, my attempts to use dual ethernet boards from various vendors have been often frustrating. I don't know a lot about the current generation of amd gear. I would still prefer moving to an arm product actually... > > On Jul 17, 2014, at 1:28 AM, Dave Taht wrote: > >> or, hmm: >> >> http://www.pcengines.ch/apu.htm >> >> $136 dollars qty 500, probably needs power supply, heatsink and and case= ... >> > > _______________________________________________ > Cerowrt-devel mailing list > Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht NSFW: https://w2.eff.org/Censorship/Internet_censorship_bills/russell_0296_= indecent.article