From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wi0-x234.google.com (mail-wi0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B18DE21F196 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hn9so5253197wib.13 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bh9HvYQJiBZhPkrpAzfKUeb005ICXp/x2NV4RIWrRYA=; b=sSiqY8TJfyQDLVZ7n9jqGsZVpbZjG5zGuCT4Ud2nH8lmGeHTvouabHaCNcGbG4oTFW lfjbE92VLoKRScefBk/9SU6ErV07uYyCHvYIgHTmZtwVs1kprf+uOZI5s351xm6mn+R7 t7Y1KBXvKWqM3sEokrDJ0dSp2iuc0PBVDEtAW7Cp6/MWqJMdrkEurLWbiwchSxpXDEzS Aay37F74upMvIEeu0jZgUS2wHKtVMzzT0RVQO8UMhhvuBMOqnvUtaPi4cuwnSjmzbAG6 0LUFsq6NkjKKUya4uzfIRy48f+QmeowtunTqb8b1O7dInQlQxtkkpsLHNtDzgYAS2vGZ craw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.97.37 with SMTP id dx5mr19788729wib.53.1395245894683; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.8.1 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:18:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00ef01cf4370$0c5bba90$25132fb0$@com> References: <00ef01cf4370$0c5bba90$25132fb0$@com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 09:18:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Dave Taht To: Frits Riep Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Verizon FIOS - How to use CeroWRT directly with interactive TV X-BeenThere: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Development issues regarding the cerowrt test router project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 16:18:17 -0000 On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Frits Riep wrote: > I have a Verizon FIOS internet, and also use the interactive TV and phone > services using my WNDR-3800 with CeroWRT. > > > > =B7 I have a 75 Mb/s down / 25 Mb/s up residential service in > Lexington MA > > =B7 I have an WNDR3800 running CeroWRT 3.10.24-8 and it is direct= ly > connected to the ONT (Optical Network Terminator), and no Verizon Router. Oh, cool. I had figured the actiontec router was a hard requirement. > =B7 To get the interactive TV (guide, multi room dvr, and video o= n > demand) you need to bridge the ethernet LAN of the router to the TV Coax = in > order to control the settop box and send the video content from the inter= net > to the settop box. > > =B7 The easiest way to bridge the Ethernet network to the Coax is= to > use a MoCA bridge (Media Over Coax Alliance). > > =B7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_over_Coax_Alliance > > =B7 D-link, Actiontec, and Netgear offer these MoCA bridges and t= hey > are under $100. You can run them with the factory defaults in this mode > (lan mode). There is also a WAN mode if you want to use the COAX to the = WAN > interface of the router which is useful if you only have COAX wiring in y= our > home and you want to locate your router in a different location from the = ONT > Ethernet jack. Can you point us at a specific one? > =B7 You need one MoCA bridge to interconnect the Coax to the stan= dard > twisted pair Lan connection on your router. > > =B7 The working topology is Verizon ONT Ethernet port to WAN inte= rface > on CeroWRT router, Moca Bridge in one of the LAN interfaces. > > =B7 Verizon residential service provides one public IP via DHCP, = and > this IP is bound to the MAC address of the router (which is also typical = of > residential services of cable providers such as Comcast). > > =B7 To successfully connect the new router (and get a DHCP addres= s), > you need to either clone the MAC address of the Verizon supplied router o= r > call Verizon and have them break the DHCP lease from their end. Good information, thank you. I had no idea you could toss the supplied router out the door in verizon's case. They are not doing a very good job of maintaining the firmware. > I have successfully been running versions of CeroWRT for about six months= , > and very much appreciate the great work to conquer Bufferbloat. > > > > I have had no issues on the WNDR-3800 getting full throughput of up to 80 > mb/s down, 30 mb/s up using speedtest.net (with speed throttling off. The > throughput and latency results are excellent when I set the speed throttl= ing > to 75 down / 25 up, per speedtest.net, pingtest.net and ICSI Netalyzr ev= en > on wireless. Running a ping test in command prompt also shows very low > latency even when running a full speedtest both up and down on both a wir= ed > or wireless connection. Well, you are bottlenecked on the wireless side for speedtest. And netalyzr can rarely achieve more than 20Mbit on anything. So some of your joy is misplaced... What I'd found from testing esr's verizon 25/25 connection was that only th= e downlink needed some shaping. at 80/25 I imagine there's not a lot of downlink buffering. > Thanks for the great work being done. I am using this for our home netwo= rk. > Should I update to the latest version 3.10.32-10 or is there a new stable= in > the near future? 3.10.32-9 is in the "happens to be pretty stable" catagory, rather than "intended to be stable". :/ We started shooting for a long-term stable build last august, I'd hoped to have one by december, and then by mid-feburary... We seem to be getting close! There are no priority 1 or 2 bugs left, churn upstream is settling down as barrier breaker gets closer to a freeze, dnsma= sq w/dnssec is nearing a release. Aside from a couple features I really wanted to have (bcp38, babeld in procd), and a protocol I wanted to obsolete (ahcp replaced by hncp), and a daemon I wanted to replace (mdns hybrid proxy in place of avahi). ... it is long past time to draw a line and declare it done enough. I think the biggest thing left to do is push the SQM system upstream to ope= nwrt for comment and revision. I'd like to gateway a "stable" cerowrt 3.10 on barrier breaker itself going into a freeze, but can live without that. AFTER there's a stable release... There is a ton of new work to do (if I care to think about it) with the new hnetd (hncp) stuff, the mdnsproxy, hardening the OS further, getting source specific routing to work better with vpns, finding a higher end platform with more oomph, etc, but we have to go looking for grant money to do any of that.